Church group plans to ban Gaga from SA

2012-11-07 13:10
Cape Town - The South African Council of Churches is planning to prevent Lady Gaga from performing in South Africa, reports Afrikaans daily newspaper Beeld.

Lady Gaga is set to perform two stadium shows in South Africa and will be in Johannesburg on 30 November at the FNB Stadium and in Cape Town on 3 December at the Cape Town Stadium.

The church group has now raised their concerns, stating that they are in fact worried about the "destructive impact" Lady Gaga can have on South Africa's youth.

This is not the first time the pop star has been slammed by a prominent group, and has also faced allegations that she is Satanist.

With her recent tour to the Philippines in May, a group of Christian youth protested against Lady Gaga's "Born This Way" tour, saying the pop star's music mocks Jesus Christ and God.

Government can stop Gaga

Reverend Mxolisi Sonti, secretary of the youth forum, told Beeld they are afraid of the extent of Satanism in South Africa at this time, and that Gaga's visit could lead to an exponential growth of Satanism.

He also claimed that if the government could stop the Dalai Lama from coming to South Africa, then they can stop Lady Gaga as well.

The group is currently planning a march to the department of Arts and Culture in Pretoria on Friday, where they will be handing over a written request to the department in a plea to stop Gaga from coming to South Africa.

Vuyani Pule confirmed to Channel24 that the march will be taking place on Friday.


  • schalk.vanjaarsveld - 2012-11-07 13:18

    What a joke! They should be more concerned with our president's antics and those of his cronies than Lady Gaga. We have bigger problems people!

      jacques.smit - 2012-11-07 14:15

      Bwahahahahah, sour grapes cause their business cant make money from it??

      brian.connell.18 - 2012-11-07 14:15

      Let's worry about more important things than whether the church's imaginary friends are going to be upset.

      nancy.kay.712 - 2012-11-07 14:20

      She is the epitome of evil. Ban her.

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-11-07 14:37

      Oh sh*t, now the real crazies have come out of hiding.

      joao.r.oliveira1 - 2012-11-07 15:01

      The two are not mutually exclusive, if they are genuinely concerned about the welfare of our youth then it is right that they should oppose her visit. Remember that Satanism is a reality in this country and elsewhere. Do a search on the number of murders recently motivated by Satanism and you will see.

      morne.siebritz.9 - 2012-11-07 15:09

      Every knee shall bow and every tongue will confess one day.Let's face the truth she is a satanist.One day when all you are gone your children will be left with all this mess.The bible says follow the narrow and straight road.All of you should know there is a right and wrong.And this is wrong to let the devil have a foothold.If you don't agree please you are in deep trouble.Jesus is the way and the everlasting life.

      siegfried.pretsch - 2012-11-07 15:34


      marcojvr - 2012-11-07 16:04

      Can they give the woman a break! She is an entertainer FULL STOP. Have a little fun you sad, sad people.

      freddie.miff - 2012-11-07 16:35

      Bunch of morons,

      freddie.miff - 2012-11-07 16:39

      If you don't like her don't go to her show, simple. Leave those alone that do want to see her. Who made SACC God?? This is not the dark ages, even if we do have a joker for a "leader"

      Hadassah.Joyce - 2012-11-07 20:55

      You obviously speak out of ignorance, do you know how the Believers prayers in this country keep you safe? You have no clue dude, it's because of the prayers of the righteous that you still can sleep at night. And you ain't seen nothing yet, Yeshua is the highest Government, so just thank him for the prayers of the righteous.

      preshen.govender.12382 - 2012-11-07 21:34

      Also vegetarians must not go to her concert for wearing the meat dress

      jonathancfarrell - 2012-11-08 09:04

      I'm not a Gaga fan but here is some points for your "church" 1. The church is destructive - by now you should be banned from Earth because you have become mostly a joke based on your history 2. I doubt satanists would be listening to a pop star 3. Go get a real job or go fight real crime and issues you dumb@ss group of idiots

  • bryn.barker - 2012-11-07 13:20

    Why should people who have nothing to do with this stupid organisation be prevented from attending a music concert because SACOC has a problem with it? If you don't like it, don't go.

      barry.nelson.96387 - 2012-11-07 13:38

      Whats stupid?

      siegfried.pretsch - 2012-11-07 15:37

      @Wesley.bischoff - I'll gladly challenge your intellect.

      luke.paola - 2012-11-07 15:49

      ummm @siegfried you must be on this council or a god botherer!

  • michangel.justice - 2012-11-07 13:23

    you have my support, not jus as an christian but as a believer and a God Fearing person. If govt can keep da lama out so can they keep satanis out.

      JohncarlosBiza - 2012-11-07 13:40

      It's not their business, nor yours, what others choose to listen to.

      classwar.trotsky - 2012-11-07 13:54

      who is satanis?

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-11-07 13:54

      Your god doesn't exist, so therefore satan doesn't exist. Get off your self-appointed pedestal and go back to the convent. The church no longer dictates to people.

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-11-07 13:55

      Religious organisations can have a say when they start to pay taxes like everyone else. Otherwise, they need to keep their delusional noses out of other people's business.

      riekie.koekemoer.3 - 2012-11-07 14:12

      Indonisia did it, so can we. Keep her out of our Country, she is not human!!!!

      brian.connell.18 - 2012-11-07 14:17

      Learn to spell. Learn Grammar. Come back and dazzle us with your erudite explanation of your imaginary friends.

      george.frangs - 2012-11-07 14:18

      An Christian haz bad grammorz....

      classwar.trotsky - 2012-11-07 14:41

      @riekie.koekemoer.3 Clever. I see your admiration for theocratic islam, as practiced in Indonesia. I supose you would support a kind of xian version of Shariah? With unbelievers persecuted and murdered? I cant believe an aparently average-intelligence westener would make such a stupid comment. This is why those with the religion-tendency gene should be kept as far away from positions of authority as possible.

      lance.kay.96 - 2012-11-07 14:47

      your an idiot, the Dalai Lama is the most peaceful person on the planet and lady Gaga is as much a satanist as you are.

      classwar.trotsky - 2012-11-07 15:00

      @lance.kay.96 Educate yourself. See what the Tibetan lamas got up to before the Chinks reigned them in. Canibalism, torture, they owned the serfs that worked the land. You have been caught in the Richard Gere bullsh!+ hollwood cause. Your average brainwashed westener is thinking "free Tibet!" and your average Tibetan peasant is saying "Please Hell No!" Break your programming and educate yourself.

  • - 2012-11-07 13:29

    Maybe they should plan to ban our President and his cronies as well - after all, if they are so concerned about the 'destructive impact' on our youth - they should clean up house first??

      andrew.pheladi.7 - 2012-11-07 16:08

      what are you talking about, what is wrong with you people. this is not about the President of our country but Gaga. Do you hate our President so much. Gods willing like Obama our President might be elected for the second term. - 2012-11-08 11:20

      Andrew - I don't hate our President.. Hate is a strong word. Do I think he is a corrupt thief, rapist and communist? Yes I do. Do you not believe that our education, health care and transport systems - which are our dear President's responsibility - are destructive to our youth? Our pupils do not have text books for almost a year.. we have an aids epidemic, healthcare is not existent.. but that is not classified as destructive??

  • classwar.trotsky - 2012-11-07 13:29

    Separation of church and state!!! You have the right to dictate to the members of your congregation as to whom or what they may see or do, but you xians most certainly do not have the right to ban people, to pass such regulations. Get stuffed, the lot of you, the dark ages are gone. Whilst I think she has absolutely zero talent, and is just another manufactured pop-package to sell to rebellious pre-teens, I certainly dont think she (or any other 'artist') should be denied making a living because some ancient old middle-eastern death cult (which is just what xianity is) decides that they will censor the world. Once again, get !@#$%ed SACC and all who dwell within your foetid walls.

      valecia.supra - 2012-11-08 12:35

      God Bless you

  • stef.fourie.7 - 2012-11-07 13:32

    She shouldnt come to SA. The devil itself.

      charlie.elford.5 - 2012-11-07 13:53

      Then you shouldn't go see her show. Priss christian himself

      classwar.trotsky - 2012-11-07 13:55

      The devil itself? Who, Gaga or South Africa????

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-11-07 13:58

      Aw, is poor Stef afraid of a beautiful woman? Your argument is invalid, the devil doesn't exist.

      james.m.turner.35 - 2012-11-07 14:17

      Everyone has the right to believe anything they want....and everyone else has the right to find it f**king ridiculous....

      brian.connell.18 - 2012-11-07 14:18

      If you don't like her, don't go to her concert. But please, DO NOT TRY TO DICTATE TO OTHERS!

      wesselo1 - 2012-11-07 14:20

      According to Pat Robertson on TBN Obama is the devil itself, im confused lol

      classwar.trotsky - 2012-11-07 14:22

      lol @ Inhlanzi

      justin.simpson.54584 - 2012-11-07 22:06

      When will the Christians realize that they don't own the world. Oh, hold on, I am one! Damn it. WHY THE HELL SHOULDN'T she come to SA. If I don't like her music, I turn it off. SIMPLE. If the parents don't like her music then they simply shouldn't buy the flipping tickets for their kids. I don't condone her songs or music videos, but she is an artist doing what they do best - using the controversial to make money.

  • Riaan Venter - 2012-11-07 13:35

    ag asseblief moet godsdiens en politiek by alles ingesleep word ek dink sy is great

  • JohncarlosBiza - 2012-11-07 13:36

    There are two types of believers: those who follow Jesus' humble and noble example, and those who act God and judge what they have no business in. The latter award themselves authority they do not actually have.

      talita.vandermerwe - 2012-11-07 14:13

      Spot on!

      dracolusus - 2012-11-07 14:26

      Same type of retards that prevented Devil Driver from playing here and bands like Slipknot from ever coming to our shores.

      george.frangs - 2012-11-07 14:26

      You Sir, have won the internet!

  • igshaanp - 2012-11-07 13:37

    thank god,as a muslim ill give my support aswell.illuminati devil b!tch

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-11-07 13:59

      Wow, you seem like such an upstanding, honourable muslim.... ... NOT!

      george.frangs - 2012-11-07 14:27

      Yeah, thats just how God taught us all how to speak. Such a fine upstanding example of religion.

      ben.louw.5 - 2012-11-07 14:43

      as if "as a muslim" carries any merit....

      classwar.trotsky - 2012-11-07 14:50

      The voice of islamic reason.....

      mbossenger - 2012-11-07 14:50

      Fundamentalist and conspiracy theorist - my favourite combination.

      ebrahim.floris.7 - 2012-11-07 15:17

      Head-in-hands,geewizz dude,seriously?

  • mark.haupt.31 - 2012-11-07 13:38

    We have the most immoral president on earth and they're worried about this number? Sheesh, no wonder we're such a messed up country.

  • markus.ippy - 2012-11-07 13:39

    Really annoying.In the bible it says that it is only for god to judge and not to you . So how Christian are these groups , just stay away from the concert and pray for her if you want to be a good Christian .btw I am not a Christian or associated to any religious group

  • dewaldt.duplessis.5 - 2012-11-07 13:39

    This is fawking ridiculous! Why ban Lady Gaga? If you want to ban Gaga then you must ban Africans who believe in toss like Spirits and witchcraft. That also is non Christian. So grow the hell up and stop seeing evil in everything. If you don't like Gaga don't go we don't want you there anyway. Stop ruining it for other people who wants to enjoy themselves.

      classwar.trotsky - 2012-11-07 13:50

      I didn't hear them baying for Brenda Fassie, the lesbian drug addict to be banned.

      charlie.elford.5 - 2012-11-07 13:54

      What's wrong with lesbian, Tros? I love them!

      classwar.trotsky - 2012-11-07 13:58

      I dont have a problem with homosexuality either. I think that apart from being just another type of physical sex, it is also another type of love, and for that it deserves to be respected. Please do not take my comment as homophobic, I was simply using the example to show the double standards of the church, especially the racist SACC.

      adrian.boulle - 2012-11-07 15:47

      These crazies should get her CDs and DVDs banned as well, whilst they're about it. I mean come on, don't they have anything better to do? Oh and whilst you're about it ban Adam Lambert, Red Hot Chilli Peppers and all these evil rock bands that will be touring the country. Just now we'll be the laughing stock of the world!

  • susan.dejager2 - 2012-11-07 13:39

    Values and beliefs should be taught at home and all Christians should be able to overcome these obsticles and stand strong in the mids of evil. Banning Gaga is not the answer being an overcomer is!! Kids will find her songs in stores, on the radio, in the media and with friends. Teach your kids to dicern between right and wrong and let the Light in them shine in this dark world! I know you don't want to hear it but Jesus even died for Gaga's soul! Pray for her to see the light!

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-11-07 14:00


      susan.dejager2 - 2012-11-07 14:06

      No my friend, denying Christ is like denying the fact that the sun shines every day! Just because you are blind and can not see Him does not mean He does not excist. Hey, by the way, wheter you believe it or not, Jesus died for you too. hope you realise it one day. ;-)

      nigel.geden - 2012-11-07 14:35

      Except that we can see the sun shining every day

      james.m.turner.35 - 2012-11-07 14:44

      Jesus died for his own sins, not mine.

      susan.dejager2 - 2012-11-07 18:10

      Wesley, I have never talked to your mother, seen her or felt her embrace, does this mean she does not exist? No, just that I have never had an experience with her. Because you have not met our Father does not mean he is not there. He is your Father as well even when you deny Him! Just because you do not understand things, or choose to be negative toward something, does not mean that He does not exists. I pray that His love will overpower you and set you free. Jesus is very real and alive, not only in the church but in the hearts of His sons and daughters who walk in a relationship with Him! God bless you my friend!

      keagan.vice - 2012-11-08 07:50

      Goku died to save us from Cell too. Dont forget that! Even though he never knew us, he was thinking of us.

  • okuhle.ngada - 2012-11-07 13:40

    Everything just gets labelled as Satanist these days by these church groups. I really don't see how Lady Gaga is satanist, she is just doing her job, and that's to entertain people.

      riekie.koekemoer.3 - 2012-11-07 14:16

      She is utter rubbish

      ben.louw.5 - 2012-11-07 14:28

      Their power as status is dwindling, so they grap anything to use as a soapbox... pathetic group...

  • angela.monaghansandells - 2012-11-07 13:41

    Good luck to them. I doubt they'll get far.

  • adele.kendall.16 - 2012-11-07 13:41

    I think they should ban the church groups, they do far more damage to our youth than a pop singer.

      Riaan Venter - 2012-11-07 13:49

      adele ek stem saam jou

  • james.m.turner.35 - 2012-11-07 13:46

    lol! Oh please! Wonder what they would say if they realised Behemoth are performing here end of November? Haha! Cant wait for that! They would s**t themselves!

      classwar.trotsky - 2012-11-07 13:52

      No way bru! Behemoth!!! NERGAL!!!!!!!! Where & when???? \m/ BLACKENED DEATH \m/ Now they can see what a real Satanic band sounds like, and it ain't Lady Gaga!!

      james.m.turner.35 - 2012-11-07 14:15

      Bru, Hypocrisy are also meant to come. That's what I heard. I was sent a link about three months back confirming they were going to be at Bassline in JHB towards the end of November. I'm trying frantically to get more information! Love Behemoth!

      adrian.boulle - 2012-11-07 15:51

      I believe Niki Minaj is also planning a visit to our shores! Wait til they get hold of that news! LOL

  • gvangreunen - 2012-11-07 13:53

    I'm certainly no Gaga fan, but seriously ... are these the same people who every Sunday eat & drink the symbolic flesh & blood of a dead man who is nailed to the wall above them??? Come on, and they're worried about her!

      classwar.trotsky - 2012-11-07 14:00

      Xianity is a blood and sex-obsessed death cult.

      mbossenger - 2012-11-07 14:53

      gvangreunen's comment wins the interwebz!

  • tshepisot - 2012-11-07 13:54

    Ag,believers and their imaginary friends. Personally I don't listen to her music but this is just stupid. I'll certainly join any march in support of the end of religion

      ryan.holland.395454 - 2012-11-07 14:58

      I wouldn't join that march to end religion. Let them believe what they want just keep it out of schools, government and my face.

  • Stu.Hellfire - 2012-11-07 13:59

    I'm not a fan of Gaga, but here we go again, the religious trying to spoil it for the others.

  • justinmeyeris - 2012-11-07 13:59

    I honestly had to double check the date to make sure it wasn't April 1st... this is one of the most ridiculous things I have read in a very long time.

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-11-07 14:28

      Bored people with boring lives.... stupid is as stupid does

  • mwsprawson - 2012-11-07 14:01

    If JC were alive today, he and Lady Gaga would probably be pretty good mates. He hung out with all the coolest people. He was really close to Mary Magdalen wasn't he? These people need to rework their ideas of what it is to be Christian. Banning a performer is not a good example of a Christian deed at all. Chasing away the money-lenders on the other hand...

      pienaar.bolo1 - 2012-11-07 14:06

      What thy think thy are 2 judge thy col themslfs Christians....*9xaa*

      mwsprawson - 2012-11-07 14:12

      Pienaar.Bolo1. I have no idea what you are saying. What language is that? And what does *9xaa* mean?

  • michelle.e.magson - 2012-11-07 14:03

    Not that I am a Gaga fan, but to state what seems blatantly obvious, aren't our youth being messed up by matters such as familial rape, burning stuff whenever there's a protest, daily violence etc?

  • joy.skene - 2012-11-07 14:03

    If they feel so strongly they should be banning some political parties, a lot of teachers, "religious leaders" and others who abuse the democratic rights of our Country,and set a disgraceful example to our youth. Grow up and concentrate on something important!

  • timothyjamespereira - 2012-11-07 14:03

    Ban the church group

  • shengeboy - 2012-11-07 14:05

    u dont love/like her music?dont go to the show. & move on with your life, i did,minding my own busines does wonders u know.

  • Erna - 2012-11-07 14:05

    .....worried about the "destructive impact" Lady Gaga can have on South Africa's youth. Much too late for that!

      george.frangs - 2012-11-07 14:37

      SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much too late for that.

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  • werner.vandeventer - 2012-11-07 14:13

    As if these right wing christians are so damn perfect, what people choose to listen to is their own damn business! If your god exists why the hell is this world so screwed? Is it his divine purpose for children to live on the streets hungry and cold and for noble innocent people to be murdered in the worst and most brutal ways imaginable? I dont care for lady gaga's music but these churches should stop shoving their beliefs and views down other people's throats. Freakin idiots!

      valecia.supra - 2012-11-08 13:03

      It is not God that has made the world so screwed. It is the people. He never made bad people, they became bad because they did not believe.

  • Brend Swanepoel - 2012-11-07 14:14

    Why not march to stop 'Leaders' such as Malema and all other tyrants who are busy dragging this country down as we speak...? These hypocritical 'Church people' will be the first to see the gates of hell!!!!

  • edward.martin.549 - 2012-11-07 14:15

    I really think this problem had far reaching concequences, in a society that practices a consitution which allows people the freedom of choice, why should I as an adult be prohibited by a group such as this one from attending a concert for which I have paid hard earned money. I really think there are better things to worry about than this! I am going to see the show not to practice santanism or be recruited to be a satanist. Children under 18 should not go to these without adult supervision anyway wether its lady gaga or a Christian Group playing. I respect everyones right to choose and its mine choice to attend this concert and I certainly dont need anyones permission to go

  • grobister - 2012-11-07 14:15

    Can't believe how backwards some people are! This is not the 1300s Go find another witch to burn! FREEDOM OF RELIGION!! More specifically FREEDOM from you idiotic religions!

  • brian.mokhawana - 2012-11-07 14:15

    People are lost well Democracy ain't it

  • Adielie - 2012-11-07 14:16


  • Ntutu Dlova - 2012-11-07 14:17

    Who the hell are they to pass judgement on Lady Gaga. we dont need hypocrites like those in SA. What is Zuma's 20 wives supposed to teach our youth? idiots

  • diran.pillay - 2012-11-07 14:18

    Gaga will sing your church group to heavens gate lol

  • werner.vandeventer - 2012-11-07 14:18

    If god really exists, I hope he has a damn good excuse.

  • gideon.rossouw - 2012-11-07 14:20

    For crying out loud. When will churches realise that the apartheid days when the state governed at the behest of churches are over. Living under a Constitution which guarantees freedom of expression, and artistic creativity means we no longer have to comply with the demands of churches who claim the right to dictate to the whole society what to do. I am also always amused by this talk of 'satanism' and the 'occult'. You will find that only religious people take these silly ideas seriously. Even if you clothe your criminality in halloween costumes and effects it remains just that: criminality. And the test for that is in the Criminal Law, governed by the Rule of Law, whose values are amplified through the rights in the Constitution. As we say in Afrikaans: "Gogga maak vir Baba Bang". Lady Gaga obviously scares these good church people, probably because she awakens desires in them about which they have deep seated guilt feelings!

  • skmc01 - 2012-11-07 14:20

    I honestly think the last thing we should be worried about is Lady Gaga influencing our youth and more worried about the examples our cANCerous leaders are depicting to the youth of this country........If it was up to religion we wouldn't be able to leave our houses without the fear of Gods wrath........Get over it there are worse things in this country to worry about instead of this crappy artist any how.

  • thabo.manganye - 2012-11-07 14:20

    What happened to he who has no sin must cast the first stone

  • lydonmcg - 2012-11-07 14:21


  • bothabibi - 2012-11-07 14:21

    How can you ban one person on the base of religion? They should be more concerned over the fact that a great part of SA people believe in witch doctors, muti and the tokolosi!

      riekie.koekemoer.3 - 2012-11-07 14:27

      That is exactly the reason she should be banned, she might influence them even more. They might just all start wearing raw skins. Imagine the smell.

      bothabibi - 2012-11-07 15:24

      @ Riekie That witch doctor thing is unfortunately not an influence, but a deeply rooted tradition protected by law and practiced by leaders of this country. Sorry if I step on a few toes, but THAT scares me! Not an attention seeking satan's bride wannabe (who's doing it for promotional purposes anyway) just visiting!

  • esther.badenhorst - 2012-11-07 14:21

    If they want to prevent someone performing in SA because they mock God, they should set their efforts on someone closer to home: Die Antwoord

      adrian.boulle - 2012-11-07 16:00

      I there's a really weird group. Look like they're high on drugs!!

  • stephen.scott.376043 - 2012-11-07 14:22

    People who don’t know the difference between, evil and art, church goers

  • bianca.cooper1 - 2012-11-07 14:22

    If Reverend Sonti can provide evidence that Lady Gaga is linked to increasing numbers of Satanists anywhere else in the world, they are welcome to have their little protest. Any self-respecting Satanist wouldn't be caught dead listening to Lady Gaga.

      george.frangs - 2012-11-07 15:28

      LOL @ Bianca!! Yeah, they all listen to the true work of the Devil, Justin Bieber! :P

  • seakamelaml - 2012-11-07 14:23

    I dnt thnk ths illuminbati exist in a real world bcos there is no substantive prove of it so ths people must stop wasting their time on preventing her to perform

  • george.frangs - 2012-11-07 14:23

    So, If I don't believe in God or Satan, I'm cool right? I can still go?? Oh and Rev. Mxolisi, if Lady Gaga had beef with the Chinese, then our government would have stepped in. Maybe you should stick to helping the poor and practicing a life that Jesus intended, rather than concerning yourself with a pop star. Woman are being raped with sticks and all you can do is blame the devil? What a joke... By that logic, I would have been a chicken strangling pentagram painter because I listened to bands like Slayer and Marilyn Manson growing up.

      adrian.boulle - 2012-11-07 16:02

      Not to forget Black Sabbath, and Uriah Heep!

  • ben.louw.5 - 2012-11-07 14:25

    I don't like Lady Gaga, but I HATE these "organisations"!!! What gives you the right?!?! You fake "holier than thou" self appointed "moral" police. Luckely this will never pass... They just jumped her for the attention. A lot like the Westbaro babtist church....

  • tanya.nagel2 - 2012-11-07 14:28

    How can u think peaple u want to band some one because u say she is a satan but god is not judging u how u r we all are his children now u want to judge do something better and look what's going on in our worl crime rape murder that's big so go and think coz u know we all r not perfect

      jacowium - 2012-11-07 15:18

      Anybody here who has the time to deconstruct and translate/interpret the above post?

      mbossenger - 2012-11-07 15:39

      I blame the parents...

      john.bucknall.1 - 2012-11-08 03:44

      #uck Tanya, they should "band" you from using a keyboard to persecute our intelligence. What on earth were you trying to say? That you were denied an education?