eNCA anchor reacts to homophobic slurs

2012-11-29 09:15
Cape Town - eNCA anchor Andrew Barnes and Virgin Active management have teamed up to take action after homophobic slurs were made against Barnes and his partner at Virgin Active Green Point on Tuesday morning, reports Times Live.

Barnes and his partner were at the gym when his partner said goodbye to him and gave him a kiss. Another gym member allegedly took offence and approached the pair and according to Barnes, verbally abused them.

Barnes took to his Facebook page around 12:00 to express his anger about the situation.

"Verbally abused at gym this morning by an old fart who took exception to seeing my partner kiss me goodbye - in this day and age?? Seriously?? (sic)"

Barnes also added that a complaint had been laid with the management team at Virgin Active Green Point regarding the matter.

"Anyway, we've laid a formal complaint and the manager of Virgin Active Point will be taking to the aggro homophobe tomorrow. I'll keep you posted... (sic)"

'The Homophobe'

Referring to him as "The Homophobe", Barnes said on Wednesday on Facebook that he had not been spotted at the gym again by management.

"So The Homophobe didn't pitch this morning....but kudos to Virgin Active. Very impressed with the way they're responding to our complaint. As soon as The Homophobe is back at gym, they'll be giving him a talking to and taking 'corrective action' (sic)."

Les Aupiais, who acts as head of strategic communications for Virgin Active South Africa, had the following comment on the incident:

"We have a zero tolerance approach to any kind of prejudice and we will act swiftly as soon as we have all the facts. We do try to bring parties together to see if we can find some middle ground and elicit an apology as a starting point," she added.

Barnes anchors News Day from 13:00 to 16:00 on eNCA on weekdays.

Comments

  • rudolf.liebenberg.98 - 2012-11-29 09:25

    Good for you Andrew! This sort of thing hardly ever happens to myself any more but when it does it proves prejudice still lurks in our society. In Greenpoint of all places..he should have known better.

      preshen.govender.12382 - 2012-11-29 09:38

      I stand behind him

      classwar.trotsky - 2012-11-29 09:59

      @Preshen - Double entendre???

      p.borchard - 2012-11-29 10:37

      ... maybe the 'homophobe' is actually just another gym member trying his damndest to get out of his gym contract....

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-11-29 12:05

      @PB that makes sense. Maybe that is the only way of getting out.

  • Jeremy - 2012-11-29 09:30

    While I have absolutely nothing against gays and lesbians, and fully agree that Andrew and his partner should have the right to go unmolested in public, I would still like to hear the other guy's side of the story. Andrew says he and his partner had a kiss. Fine. But was it a peck or a full-on tongue-in-mouth slurp and grope? If it was the latter - then it's not really something you want to see in public, whether it's between two men, two women or a man and a woman! I don't know what the other guy said. If it was homophobic then he deserves be censured and should apologise. If, however, it was along the lines of "For heaven's sake guys, knock it off!" then maybe the whole thing's been blown out of proportion.....

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-11-29 10:34

      A peck is fine. But regardless of sexuality, a full-on kiss with tongue is a bit much. I doubt though, that a news anchor would shnog like that in public.

      denise.herbst.5 - 2012-11-29 11:06

      Jeremy & Wesley - what if it was two hot blonde girls in skimpy clothing? Would you object to a full-on kiss???

      Jeremy - 2012-11-29 11:06

      I'm sorry Stuart, are you talking to me? If so, then you're completely wrong. All I'm trying to get at is both sides of the story and, as for "faith," well I'm definitely not a religious zealot!

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-11-29 11:38

      @develyn Yes, making out with tongue is a bit much... it's not THAT bad or super-offending, but i understand why some people would be put off by such passionate kissing like that. Like i said, a simple kiss/peck is fine.

  • henk.tredoux.7 - 2012-11-29 09:40

    Kiss and make up! I hope there was some tongue action too!!

  • tamlin.vanheerver - 2012-11-29 09:46

    so sensitive aren't we...

  • wayne.jubber - 2012-11-29 09:57

    What a load of crap if two heterosexuals are insulted we sort it out without fuss. However because a small minority of people who however you look at it are and will always be seen as the exception rather than the rule get insulted we make a mountain out of it! Grow up deal with it that's what happens when you different to the mainstream people comment get over it

      wesley.bischoff - 2012-11-29 10:37

      Heterosexuals don't get beat up or murdered for being straight.

      denise.herbst.5 - 2012-11-29 11:26

      I think people should ALWAYS make a mountain out of intolerance! What gives this homophobe the right to confront someone he does not agree with in a public place? By all means dont invite gays into your home if you dont like it but if you going out into the real world you should learn to STFU and practice a bit of tolerance.

      james.hurley.1401 - 2012-11-30 16:00

      @jubber you clearly have very little intelligence if you think that discrimination and bullying is something that people should 'get over'. The whole point of equal protection under the law is that minorities are not made targets. I guess by your reasoning it's absolutely fine if there is ever a mass genocide of white people in this country - hey, the minority must just get over it already, nogal.

  • classwar.trotsky - 2012-11-29 09:58

    I thought all gym-bunnies were firmly in the closet in any case. Why else would they want to work out together, admire each other's abs and then shower together afterwards?

      james.m.turner.35 - 2012-11-29 10:17

      Lol! haha! Nice!

      classwar.trotsky - 2012-11-29 10:38

      @james - Death, Behemoth & Carcass? I approve :)

  • dumi.zulu.31 - 2012-11-29 10:01

    Eish

  • dumi.zulu.31 - 2012-11-29 10:02

    We are still in Afrca dude.

      stuart.steedman - 2012-11-29 10:28

      So what does that mean? That we should all act backwards and uncivilized?

      james.hurley.1401 - 2012-11-30 16:01

      @dumi - yeah we are - where many men think it's okay to rape (where our president even said a skirt means a woman is 'asking for it'). And you would pretend it is LGBT people who have the problem? Please.

  • lydonmcg - 2012-11-29 10:12

    Of ALL gyms you pick the one probably filled with the most gay people to be homophobic in? What an idiot! It's Green Point for goodness sakes.

      james.hurley.1401 - 2012-11-30 16:03

      Lol. I'm going to hold a satanic ritual at a Rhema church convention. They couldn't possibly kick up a fuss.

  • douglas.reid.921 - 2012-11-29 10:18

    He better not watch soccer or rugby, the boys are hugging and kissing each other all the time.

  • wesley.bischoff - 2012-11-29 10:32

    Good for you Andrew! And Les, you were always a tough cookie on Carte Blanche :)

  • richard.botha1 - 2012-11-29 10:35

    Racist, Homophobe, Sexist, it would appear that one is only allowed to voice an opinion if it is in agreement with the liberal point of view otherwise one gets a label and is condemed by every liberal person or institution in existance. Wake up and smell the coffee this liberal religion is a value system and their idea of an approach to life. They are enforcing their belief system or religion on others through their media and other mechanisms. Not all agree with this religious point of view and have a right to their own opinions and their own values and beliefs. Its time the liberals stop forcing their religion down the throats of the rest of society and allow for tolerance for all thought, not just the liberal point of view. A persons dignity is affecting when their opinion is totally ignored and they are merely labelled and ostracised for having an opposing opinion, instead of being given a constructive argument on the merits of the argument. It would appear that the liberals cannot argue on the merits and have to resort to name calling in order to get their point of view across.

      stuart.steedman - 2012-11-29 10:41

      To sum up Mr. Botha's post: "Let's all be tolerant, so long as the tolerance is towards religious and conservative beliefs, because I don't want to be called 'homophobe' when I say something that's actually homophobic." How close am I?

      denise.herbst.5 - 2012-11-29 11:41

      Richard - i think you forget that the author was verbally assaulted while minding his own business - he was not attacked for trying to force his views on someone else. Would you go and attack two hetros walking hand and hand in the shops because you personally don’t agree with public displays of affection? No, you would look away and mind your own business. No-one says the guy who attacked the author is not entitled to his own opinions but he was trying to force them on the author - not the other way around. Or is at as Stuart say?

      pieter.pan.184 - 2012-11-29 15:54

      The "liberal" religion is one of tolerance and acceptance. Is there something wrong with that? Or do we all get to decide and decry people and actions we don't agree with? What biggots, racists and homphobes don't understand is that no one is asking them to go out dancing at a gay club or engage with people whose way of life they find abhorrent in some way. What we are asking is that you keep your intollerant attitudes to yourself. Start understanding that you share the earth with people who do not think the way you do.

      james.hurley.1401 - 2012-11-30 16:06

      @Stuart you're spot on actually. @Richard - last time I checked there weren't 'Kill the Conservatives' Bills on the table in several African countries. Quit bleating about your made-up oppression and do something useful with your life. You don't know the meaning of oppression. Keep dreaming. People are being murdered due to 'conservative' beliefs. Keep telling yourself you have the moral higher ground here

  • justin.frittelli - 2012-11-29 10:35

    Andrew you described him as an old fart, surely you should have laughed him off as a result, our generation is hopefully more tolerant of each others differences, but to expect an older generation to change is un unrealistic expectation on your part, hence the need to rather laugh off this mentality and not allow it to work you up, there is a tolerance required on your part to understand that this generation grew up in a different world and hence hold certain views, so as you expect tolerance in some way apply the same to older generations.

  • richard.botha1 - 2012-11-29 10:50

    To sum up stuart.steedman comment lets all be intollerat towards other points of view and let us call them names and make them out as lesser people ans insult their opinions and way of life because it does not agree with your liberal point of view.

      stuart.steedman - 2012-11-29 11:14

      Society tip for you Richard: tolerance of intolerance is intolerant. That is why you find yourself being labelled when you are -gasp- intolerant to others.

      james.hurley.1401 - 2012-11-30 16:09

      @Richard Botha - when your 'beliefs' step on my right to be mildly affectionate with my significant other in public, or even back legislation that sees my LGBT brothers and sisters get imprisoned or murdered, you can be damn sure that I won't respect them.

  • Dennis - 2012-11-29 10:54

    Let me get this straight. If I am gay I can call you an ,old fart' but you cannot call me any names or I will publically throw my toys out of the cot. Something wrong here ?!!!!

      pieter.pan.184 - 2012-11-29 16:12

      No gay person is going to walk up to you at a gym and tell you off for being an old fart. If you kissed your wife goodbye, no one would come up to you and say you shouldn't kiss her in public because they don't want to see old people kiss.

      james.hurley.1401 - 2012-11-30 16:11

      @Dennis - you also clearly do not understand the nature of cause and effect. The 'old fart' comment came after the public discrimination.The man lost his right to any respect by treating others disrespectfully.

  • jmaryke - 2012-11-29 11:31

    Just grow up...ignore . Nowadays everybody reports everybody ..like little children. Like running to your mother? If it was not true and it could harm your reputation if somebody made a remark....maybe...Just get over it...in fact it is not normal to normal people so it might offend them. It is still their problem...

      Trish.Adi.Brits - 2012-11-29 12:36

      True on the whole everybody runs to their mommies bit but "it is not normal to normal people" what defines normal?

      james.hurley.1401 - 2012-11-30 16:13

      @jmaryke No-one cares what you consider to be normal or not. You still have no right to insult people in public for expressing affection towards one another. And if you do, people are within their rights to protest and take action.

  • jmaryke - 2012-11-29 11:43

    I Really don't care what anybody does...but nowadays everybody reports everybody....really ? Get over it...in a normal world it will never be normal..just like different races will always be hostile towards each other..has been since beginning of time and will be forever...It is just the degree that differs in SA and all over the world...We are not the same.. Only SA that think they can force it...I am not saying be racist or Homophobic or whatever. But stop being so sensitive...The world is for the normal...odd will always be odd..so if you chose to be odd ...be odd but don't say you are normal..

      christoffvstaden - 2012-12-03 18:04

      Yawn...

  • thato.seloane - 2012-11-29 12:19

    Hope they act with the same speed and vigor with the racism as well

      leon.olivier.92 - 2012-11-29 13:26

      Yes Thato in fact they do. Virgin active has canceled the contract of 3 individuals who have made racial comments in their gyms that I know of. The stories have also been covered with the same vigor right here on news24 also.

  • richard.botha1 - 2012-11-29 12:26

    Mr stuart.steedman who is being intolerant, is it the person who has gone against the normal order of things and who tries to force everyone into his way of thinking, or is it the one that recognises the norm and asks you for a good argument as to why you want him to change to your religion. What you are proposing in your religion is not the norm but the abnormal so give us a constructive argument as to why the majority of society should change their religious point of view for yours. That is all that is being asked. Instead of using names like intolerant and racist or sexist of homophobe, tell us how society will benifit from following your religion and gives us a contructive argument so that we can debate it like civilised grown-ups and not degrade to the level of children through name calling

      stuart.steedman - 2012-11-29 20:42

      My religion? I have no religion. I choose to base my moral code on empathy, not an outdated bronze-age book written by sheep herders.

      james.hurley.1401 - 2012-11-30 16:15

      @Richard - how has society benefitted from following the great hoax that is religion? I suppose we must celebrate that the vatican puts up money to defend the lawsuits of serial sex offenders within the clergy? I suppose we must celebrate that the religious colonization of Africa has lead to the death penalty and severe persecution for many? What has your supposedly great tradition of worshipping a man nailed to a cross brought the world? Peace? The end of suffering?

  • leon.olivier.92 - 2012-11-29 12:27

    The same people spewing their hateful comments about how gays moan and cry about how they are victims and how they should man up. You are the same people who bitch when the -black- government infringe on you're God given rights. Or when you as a black person gets called the K word. Then everyone hears you're opinion. At least -JOU MA- is honest about how he feels about us. The rest of you just have double standards

  • angelique.p.ervin - 2012-11-29 13:57

    This type of stuff seems to happen quite a lot of Virgin Active, which is a shame because you can't really hold them responsible since they are just a gym. The same thing can happen at a Standard Bank, Spar, Ocean Basket where ever. But they are responsible for the way in which it is dealt with.let's hope they deal with this appropriately. We need to realize the issue lies with society, people, and mind sets. That's where racism, homophobia etc is a problem. The fact that we can't accept gays, blacks, whites,coloreds, asians etc etc etc in todays day and age is disgusting. We need to realize regardless of our sexuality, race, gender, we all have a right to respect,love, compassion etc, and we all have a right to be here on this Earth and whether you like it or not we have to learn to live with each other.if you don't like gays,blacks,whites,indians or whatever, then just walk away, you don't have to verbally,physically abuse or assault anyone.

      richard.botha1 - 2012-11-29 14:04

      Can I ask you a question please, define sexuality

      richard.botha1 - 2012-11-29 14:20

      I find your argument that if we don't like it we must just walk away rather disturbing. It was not long ago that a company was taken to the Human Rights court because he refused to allow two homosexuals to marry on his premises, why did they not just walk away. It would appear that the same rules do not apply. As to my earlier discussion, we don't all have the same points of view, but we need to determine what is best for society, not what we should tolerate as a society.

      james.hurley.1401 - 2012-11-30 16:18

      @Richard - please provide links to full details on this company that supposedly was sued by homosexuals. I'm pretty sure there would have been some breach of contract on the company's part for the claimants to have had bothered making a case. Or did you just dream this up? Who is this 'we' that is determining what is 'best' for society? Do you really have the arrogance to assume that you can speak for all of society? You do not speak for me.

  • jmaryke - 2012-11-29 14:03

    Refer to my earlier comments and the response on that.I am trying to explain why I think this type of response from Andrew is childish.Nobody can define normal..true!Religion nobody can define and explain..or really prove that any God of any religion exists..so I believe in God you don't..so what! Humans must reproduce..so I would think (common sense) that it is Normal to have males and females in Relationships to make this possible ..the argument of adoption for gays would not be possible otherwise! I can give so many examples of Normal and abnormal. I listened to people ( on Tv ) trying to say that people being Bi-polar should not be labeled...If you cannot cope with life ..that is not normal. If you die of a heart attack..you probably ate wrong, were a couch potato ..you cannot argue that thin people should not label you if you look like a pig...Ok, thin people also die due to heart failure..so what. If somebody has Aids..most likely you contracted it as a lifestyle disease and I can guarantee you that is everybody's first thought. Again just in SA where the Gov THINK they can force you to think different..by giving reason of death ( because of primary disease being AiDS) another name like TB / FLU like symptoms ect..SO MY POINT IS..if you are on either side of the Normal human behavior..you are not normal. Do you feel so insecure that you want to report everybody?.What is the point,why scream and shout in the media AND There is always 2 sides 2 a story..

      christoffvstaden - 2012-12-03 17:28

      J Christ, I have never read such a load of rubbish...

  • lesedi.amore - 2012-11-30 14:25

    I just wonder how straight guys feel in the gym changing rooms sometimes...

      james.hurley.1401 - 2012-11-30 16:19

      they're free to change at home if they feel uncomfortable naked in front of complete strangers, as I do.

  • richard.botha1 - 2012-12-02 15:38

    Mr JamesHurleyZa lets not forget that 80% of South Africans say that they are Christian. This is the value system prefered by most South Africans, black, white, coloured, Indian, you name it. Your liberal religious philosophy is actualy part of a very small minority in South Africa that have been able to sneak in through the proverbial back door in 1994, through this liberal Constitution that most people did not understand. This liberal religion has shown throughtout the world that it does not work. The only societies it develops is promiscuous, rebelious and on the whole lazy societies. By the way if you want to try and hide behind the label that it is not a religion, I beg to differ. It is a value system based on a philosophy that men are inherently good and must be left to their own devises. Just like any other religion is a value system based on a defining philosophy. I think Hitler, Stalin and a few others like maybe Idi Amin have however put paid to the notion that man is inherently good, thus leaving your religion with a very big flaw in. I also put it to you that anything that starts from an incorrect premise is incorrect.

      christoffvstaden - 2012-12-03 17:34

      "I also put it to you that anything that starts from an incorrect premise is incorrect" - indeed a very good point, have you applied it to question your own religious beliefs though?

      james.hurley.1401 - 2012-12-04 01:55

      you are wrong, liberalism is not a 'religion'. Go check the most recent census and see if 'liberalism' is listed there. 'Liberalism' is a political philosophy, not a religion, and if you do not know the difference between the two there is little hope for rational argument with you. Onto the bulk of your claim - I think 80% is a drastic exaggeration (what about Islamic adherents, agnostics, buddhists, various other religious positions?). Until you show me proof that 80% are indeed Christian I dismiss that claim outright. In what way is my having a monogamous relationship with a man leading to either promiscuity or a 'lazy society'? Please clarify how this ridiculous claim of yours applies. Liberalism does not believe that 'men are inherently good and must be left to their own devises [sic]'.Liberalism is based on the ideas of liberty and equality, including freedom of religion (ironically). Your militant pushing of your Christianity on the other hand is anti- freedom of religion. The fact you bring in the red herrings of Hitler, Stalin and Idi Amin speaks volumes as far as the poverty of your imagination and intelligence is concerned. In case you forgot, Hitler gassed millions of Jewish people and had lobotomies performed on LGBT people at Dachau. He was hardly a liberal. Pick up a book or two before you spout complete cr@p next time.

  • richard.botha1 - 2012-12-03 21:10

    christoffvstaden if you can point out on what premise the Bible is incorrect by all means lets discuss it, because I have looked at it and have not found anything wrong. I have however found the huge fault in the premise of the liberal philosophy.

      james.hurley.1401 - 2012-12-04 01:59

      I guess you'll know already then, Miss Botha, that the fairytale used to claim us LGBT folks are 'abominations' (the Old Testament) also advocates child marriage, the marriage of a woman to her rapist, slavery, and much more, while wearing mixed fabrics is forbidden. Got any polyester/cotton blends? Better repent and prepare for the flames... lol. Here's a useful quote fore you, maybe give it a think: 'The Christian resolution to find the world ugly and bad has made the world ugly and bad' - Friedrich Nietzsche. One only needs to look at the push for the death penalty for homosexual people in Uganda, which was fueled by religious propaganda, to know that Nietzsche was right. Your religion is ugly and will never have a place in my life, as long as hate-filled bigots like you represent it.

      christoffvstaden - 2012-12-05 12:51

      Richard, my comment didn't imply that you have to convince me of your religious beliefs - I have no interest in them... It was however meant to be seen as an opportunity to make YOU aware of your OWN thinking and how YOU arrived at the idea that christianity is the solution to problems we are facing today. All good and well to imply others' premises are incorrect, but to respond by writing "I have looked at it and have not found anything wrong"(i.e. with your religion & the bible) shows me that you are one-sided and lack in objectivity, and for that reason I won't even consider having a discussion with you as I am interested in finding solutions instead of splitting hair over religious beliefs.

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