Boycott looming if TopTV porn goes ahead

2013-01-14 11:56
Thinus Ferreira
Cape Town – The Family Policy Institute (FPI) is reacting to TopTV's second attempt to launch a porn channels a year after the struggling South African pay-TV operator's first application for such authorisation was denied by South Africa's broadcasting regulator.

TopTV, currently in business rescue, wants to launch the trio of titillating channels, namely Playboy TV, Desire TV and Private Spice as a separate bouquet with a PIN system, and told the Independent Communications Authority of South Africa (Icasa) that it wants to start broadcasting the pornographic channel bouquet as quickly as possible "to give TopTV a fighting chance of survival".

The FPI has now called on Icasa to decline TopTV's porn plan for a second time.

The faith-based group said that if the TopTV plan goes ahead it will call for a nationwide boycott of TopTV, as well as a boycott of all the pay-TV operator's advertisers and sponsors.

The South African public and all interested parties have 21 working days from 19 December 2012 - making the deadline 18 January 2013 - to comment on TopTV's porn channel plans.

Correspondence has to be sent to Ndondo Dube, Broadcasting Licencing Unit, Licencing and Compliance Division, Block D, Pinmill Farm, 164 Katherine Street, Sandton Johannesburg or fax 011 566 3200 or e-mail pndube@icasa.org.za.

Comments

  • squeegee.pilot - 2013-01-14 12:07

    Oi Vey. Hide.. the Trolls are coming...!

      erich.goosen - 2013-01-15 08:59

      These new chanals might result in the creation of extra jobs.

  • vambozha.mutemi.9 - 2013-01-14 12:08

    i will not boycott...

      tough.kookie.9 - 2013-01-14 12:24

      The prudes are coming! Freedom of choice is only applicable when it suits certain people/groups

      de.stig.9 - 2013-01-14 16:28

      me too

      marc.ross.965 - 2013-01-14 16:41

      I am a Porn Again Top TV subscriber.

  • 1CRAZYONE - 2013-01-14 12:08

    If you don't like it, don't watch it... Don't buy that bouquet... But stop telling other people what they can and can't do with their money or time. It is separate bouquet with a pin?? what is FPI problem? Stop shoving religion down the throats of public and asking for donations which at the same time.

  • joshua.t.thomson - 2013-01-14 12:09

    Faith based institutions should be boycotted.

      gerry.pelser - 2013-01-14 13:26

      Faith-based institutions should come with warning labels.

      cc.fourie - 2013-01-14 14:28

      ...and also boycott the companies that support these "faith based" institutions. I think it is time to name and shame companies that make donations to these "faith based" institutions.

  • jason.marriott.75 - 2013-01-14 12:09

    They have the right to boycott if they like.. Just like those who would like to watch it have the right subscribe.

  • phoenix.px.5 - 2013-01-14 12:10

    LOL should they not be boycotting the internet instead? No PIN and always available on your child's cellphone.

      prot.kpax.33 - 2013-01-14 13:02

      Exactly my thoughts, you could go on to google and search for any sort of porn you like, the porn on the web is far worse then what they would show on tv. Now a days you get kids in primary school with phones that could do all that. Where is the call for boycott there then?

  • neil.cuthbert.9 - 2013-01-14 12:15

    Great idea if you don't want to watch don't subscribe!

  • adrian.cloete.37 - 2013-01-14 12:17

    I want my porn asap!

      nervern - 2013-01-14 12:47

      That's the spirit,lol.

      fussed.anderson - 2013-01-14 13:07

      Show of hands more like it

      piet.hannibol - 2013-01-14 13:41

      Yeah where do I sign?

  • willbeonekenobi - 2013-01-14 12:34

    DSTV has Supersport, ETV has their news programmes and advertising, SABC has the government. TOPTV needs a lifeline and if it's porn then so be it. They say that it is going to be a seperate bouquet and protected by pin, then what is the fuss about? If it is children that they are worried about then they should get parents to ban their kids from having/owning phones as Porn is easier to obtain and do not check if they are of legal age. If people don't want to watch it then they should not force other people who don't conform to their beleifs and views on religion to not watch it when they want to.

      eric.phillips.94849 - 2013-01-14 18:56

      I agree wit you. Furthermore, the three progams they want to put on, shows only stuff that every one of us (normal people) have done ourselves. good wholesome heavy sex!!!! If its ok to do it ourselves, why is it so bad to watch it???

  • mark.barker.370 - 2013-01-14 12:48

    Bunch of idiots The Family Policy institute - if they are so against porn being freely available they would welcome this move , currently porn is freely available on line and your Teen knows how to acccess it. Surely its better to have it via Pay TV where only consenting adults with a credit card can access it. Morons

  • artur.winiecki.1 - 2013-01-14 12:48

    It just shows how backwards a country SA still is in many regards, sex education is all but non existent. Hey all it is i think is that all these groups are scared that their peers might pick up some new moves from these programs that they wont know about :oP

      jeremy002 - 2013-01-14 13:09

      No Arthur, the more you decline morally, the more backward you get. Not the other way around. Acid heads and unmade beds, pal.

      shaunisaac.malambo - 2013-01-14 13:33

      Yokohama hands

      Gareth Deeble - 2013-01-14 15:15

      Jeremy next time you see jesus say hi for me oh wait won't happen he doesnt exist

  • Blackpoison - 2013-01-14 12:48

    And again it's a "faith-based group" that plans the boycott. Why do these people deem it their moral obligation to keep me on the long and narrow path? If I choose the highway then that is my problem. Or are they afraid that they will be punished for not doing their "duty" in keeping me in line?

      artur.winiecki.1 - 2013-01-14 13:00

      Well if you read the Bible it tells its belivers to spread the word and get others to follow them, as its the right thing to do and they need to do this to help save you from hell. Im not much of a believer but find religions interesting things. Even though they can often be attributed to have the opposing effect to what they preach.

      jeremy002 - 2013-01-14 13:07

      Because it is a foot in the door, and will lead to greater moral breakdown, more beakdown of the family, more sex related crimes, more porn addiction, and so on. How do you think that paedophiles got to the point where they petitioned in the USA to have their perverted ways recognised simply as an alternative lifestyle, a personal choice, a sexual preference? Not overnight, but by degrees. This is a degree. Can you not grasp that? If you have ever had a tooth ache, do you think that the decay that caused it appeared overnight. No it took months. When the paedophiles tried the move that I mentioned above, the whole world reacted with a massive backlash against the paedophiles' main thing, which is child porn. Good on them.

      fef.gericke - 2013-01-14 13:23

      Jeremy dont be ignorant.Netherlands have no censorship and have the lowest rape figures in the world.Sometimes a pervert just needs an outlet,like a porn movie,to stop him from acting out.All the studies have shown that there is no link between pornography and rape.Peadophiles are born like that.Do you really believe that watching a soft porn movie is going to turn a normal human into a peadophile...really

      chris.stuart.332 - 2013-01-14 15:02

      @ Artur, but when I tell these faith base groups about my flying spaghetti monster in the sky, they don’t want to believe in His Holy FSM. So why should I listen to their god(s) and why should their god(s) decide what I can view. And Im a total believer in the great FSM.

      jeremy002 - 2013-01-14 16:09

      @fef - Not all the studies. Do some more research.

  • nervern - 2013-01-14 12:53

    Can South Africans please stop being such drolle? Damn. Why don't they boycott Etv and that flougat late night porn adverts they normally throw when ur watching a under 13 movie,lol. Go boycott the internet that ur children are using to download free porn,lol.

  • wesselo1 - 2013-01-14 12:56

    O dear god!!! If you like the porn, just don't watch it!!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't have your views enforced on everybody that wants porn. Im gay, so will not be subscribing though as there wilbe no gay porn.

  • ian.robertreid - 2013-01-14 12:59

    Don't u think that the devil's w/shop has enough junk in it without adding on?? going 2hell ~ End Times ~

  • cheryl.childs - 2013-01-14 12:59

    Get over it - just don't pay and watch it. Simple.

  • leon.pieterse.35 - 2013-01-14 13:02

    TopTV is so dead not even Viagra will give it a "lift"!

  • ever.ryman - 2013-01-14 13:09

    This issue is becoming really tedious. It is not at all complicated-if you don't want it, don't subscribe. If you want it, subscribe. If you have children and subscribe, use the PIN number to block access, and take responsibility for making sure that your kids don't find out the PIN, and don't watch when they are around. Simple. Professional porn movies (as these are) are NOT made with a gun to the head of the participants-it is their choice and their job. Would I subscribe? Probably not. Do I have the right to dictate YOUR CHOICE-absolutely NOT!!!

  • marko.geldenhuys.5 - 2013-01-14 13:13

    boycott porn? NEVER!

  • leslie.rabie - 2013-01-14 13:21

    Freedom of choice

  • shaunisaac.malambo - 2013-01-14 13:22

    I support the Family Policy Institute, I already sent in my submission. Why must men, women and children have to suffer, at TopTV's financial gain. It's enough that the banks are messing around with people lives. I cancelled my TopTV subscription already when I heard this news.

      tough.kookie.9 - 2013-01-14 16:10

      Don't let the door hit you on the way out!

      Kwajo.m - 2013-01-14 16:16

      You have close the account so why keep talking?

      jerry.pres - 2013-01-14 18:37

      Good for you, if you cannot control yourself, better to cancel account !!!

  • kseyffert - 2013-01-14 13:26

    It's a pay channel and Pin protected. The only way you or yours can see it is if you pay the fee. Stay out of the lives of those with different views to you!

  • keithpatkell - 2013-01-14 13:28

    Oh hell if Top TV's survival depends on it... let them show all they wish to! The country is not going to suddenly plunge deeper into corruption and moral decline than what exists at present! It might even do some good, save a life or two...because the psychos and sexual deviants who enjoy S.A.'s newest national sport...RAPE, that is, can subscribe and become couch potato rapists. They can ensconce themselves cozily in front of the TV and slap their planks or choke the turkey or chase the beaver or whatever gross pastime takes their fancy!

      Clive.D.Buckley - 2013-01-14 13:54

      oh grow up melissa... stop trying to enforce your narrow minded views on everyone else... South Africa has a much higher instance of Child abuse than countries like the netherlands where explicit pornography is freely availble... you are not our moral gaurdian... if you don't like it... don't subscribe... do what I do with the moronic religious channels on DSTV, DON'T WATCH IT... I am sick to death of you religious morons trying to enforce your views on other people...

      keithpatkell - 2013-01-15 07:35

      Cool it dudes and dudesses! No one is suggesting we enforce anything on anyone here! I hear what you say Melissa, but what you describe already exist in our society, moral decay IS rife and spousal and child abuse IS endemic and whether or not a TV channel shows explicit pornographic content is not going to exacerbate the problem, but if perverts find an outlet for their deviant behaviour in pornography so be it. It is not as if it can be enforced on right minded, sane people, just as Nutty says: "if you don't dig it, don't tune in!" Let the turkey-chokers and plank-wankers do whatever blows their hair back, as long as they do it in private and leave moral folks alone! Live your own life, don't attempt to impose it on others and don't allow the deviant side of society to sour yours...

  • piet.hannibol - 2013-01-14 13:35

    Probably because the guys holding the reigns at FPI has the idea of showing their children the porn and this is a preemptive task to stop themselves of doing so? What the heck does this society fight for porn to be showed when they should be worried about children.... scares me how they bring the two together.

  • grant.logan.94 - 2013-01-14 13:48

    Many tv series and movies shows couple having sex outside of marriage. Just look at anything on dstv Isn't that a sin too? I don't see anyone protesting against that.

  • theo.dubruyn.9 - 2013-01-14 13:53

    TopTV should try and get some sport channels, that should also help their situation....

  • nicolas.cocolas.1 - 2013-01-14 13:57

    TopTv were misleading clients when they took MUTV off the air without informing its clients. They could not come back with a descent enough reason. As far as i am concerned let them close down. The rest of the channels are absolute garbage anyway...

  • carolyn.myburgh - 2013-01-14 13:57

    If you don't want to watch it then DON'T WATCH IT leave some fun in other peoples lives

  • randall.j.coetzee - 2013-01-14 14:34

    People who wants to Boycott this should also boycott the use of BlackBerry's and any other phone capable of using the internet. Why don't you guys just boycott the internet as a whole?... People can sometimes be so stupid. I wonder how many people follow satan after ladygaga performed here???lol... Ai... Religion, the downfall of most great men

  • williamwamala.nsubuga - 2013-01-14 14:49

    "TopTV, currently in business rescue, wants to launch the trio of titillating channels, namely Playboy TV, Desire TV and Private Spice as a separate bouquet with a PIN system". That should be satisfying enough to the "Diehard Conservatives". The Bouquet will not be open to every,TOM,DICK and Harry!!. It is for those who will subscript for it just in the same way that TEASERS is for those who pay the entrance fee and enter the facility. What happened to "FREEDOM OF CHOICE"

  • chris.stuart.332 - 2013-01-14 14:55

    These religious / faith based groups should stay out of the media. If you dont want it, dont buy it, easy! And you are you to decide what I may and may not view on my TV based on your faith. I faith demands that I watch porno! Why should your god(s) be better than mine? No your gods / faith is not better and it cant decide what I may or may not view. If TopTV wants to show it, let them, Im sure it wont be a problem to create a seperate channel for it?

  • roulon.toit - 2013-01-14 15:00

    So is TopTV going to come around and tie whole families to the couch and force them to watch porn for free? I better warn my parents. Also, who has time to arrange boycotts?

  • Piet - 2013-01-14 15:24

    So Porn is not acceptable but Movies like Natural Born Killers are acceptable. Violence is what makes South Africa SICK.... Its love we need. NOT VIOLENCE. PORNO=LOVE. I LOVE PORNO!!!

      zaks2217 - 2013-01-14 18:24

      Hahaha that's a top one bro!

      lalitha.peaches.pather - 2013-01-15 05:56

      Dude if you think porn(2 or more paid actors having sex on camera) is love then I feel so sorry for you! You are so deprived of love!

      lalitha.peaches.pather - 2013-01-15 05:56

      Dude if you think porn(2 or more paid actors having sex on camera) is love then I feel so sorry for you! You are so deprived of love!

  • mokoena.job - 2013-01-14 15:51

    I am waiting for approval from icasa, so can watch porn, there is absolutely no problem with it. religion , to hell. it is my right to watch what i want, if it is porn I will

  • Brad - 2013-01-14 16:42

    Don't really care. pornhub.com gives me everything I need.

  • dienaakte.waarheid.7 - 2013-01-14 16:45

    And the atheists finds another soapbox to spew forth their version of whats right and whats not. I am not a xtian btw, but the fact you imbiciles CHOOSE to ignore, is that the porn industry destroyes lives. Get over your self you bucnh of wannabe intellectuals and look at the facts. So all you pro porn one handed warriors would want your daugher being gangraped in the *ss by 6 men so they can earn a mealticket? You would want your friends to see your daughter being *had* and then laugh about it afterwards? Think with your heads and not your d*cks. Porn is something that should be banned outright.

      phoenix.px.5 - 2013-01-14 16:52

      Porn is not the problem in all the cases you describe. Does watching movies where someone gets shot (i.e. nearly ALL movies) make you want to go out and kill someone???

      dienaakte.waarheid.7 - 2013-01-14 16:55

      36 porn stars died that we know of from HIV, suicide, homicide and drugs between 2007 and 2010. 66% of porn performers have Herpes, a non-curable disease. 2,396 cases of Chlamydia and 1,389 cases of Gonorrhea reported among performers since 2004. Over 100 straight and gay performers died from AIDS. 26 cases of HIV reported by Adult Industry Medical Healthcare Foundation (AIM), since 2004. 70% of sexually transmitted infections in the porn industry occur in females according to County of Los Angeles Public Health. Chlamydia and Gonorrhea among performers is 10x greater than that of LA County 20-24 year olds

      dienaakte.waarheid.7 - 2013-01-14 16:55

      36 porn stars died that we know of from HIV, suicide, homicide and drugs between 2007 and 2010. 66% of porn performers have Herpes, a non-curable disease. 2,396 cases of Chlamydia and 1,389 cases of Gonorrhea reported among performers since 2004. Over 100 straight and gay performers died from AIDS. 26 cases of HIV reported by Adult Industry Medical Healthcare Foundation (AIM), since 2004. 70% of sexually transmitted infections in the porn industry occur in females according to County of Los Angeles Public Health. Chlamydia and Gonorrhea among performers is 10x greater than that of LA County 20-24 year olds

      dienaakte.waarheid.7 - 2013-01-14 16:56

      No, but the actors in Die hard arent selling their bodies to support a habit that was caused by selling their bodies.....get the picture?

      opinion.polls.14 - 2013-01-14 17:16

      Great USA statistics you quote there - HOWEVER totally unrelated to the topic here. Allow me to help - the question here is whether Top-TV should be allowed to screen porn - NOT whether we should all become porn stars, in which case your stats would become relevant to us....

      Clive.D.Buckley - 2013-01-14 18:59

      Besides from this, if you read the aticle, they are talking about the Playboy Channel... hardly porn at all as far as I am aware, soft porn at the very worst (which does not include any sex, just simulated sex and nudity... no worse then some commercial films in fact)... I personally couldn't care if Top TV do this or not, I would not subscribe as there is plenty of free porn on the net if I wanted to watch it.. no need to pay for it... BUT I do object to the ultra religious trying to tell people what they can and cannot do.. they are always on about how there beliefss do no harm/ do not affect others, well here is a very good example of how their beliefs DOES affect other people

      Gareth Deeble - 2013-01-15 16:28

      Bring your kids up right and you wont have to explain to your mates why your daughter in porn

  • frank.lowe.125 - 2013-01-14 16:57

    En waar kom al die kinders van daan?? dis net sex die sex daai sex dit is nog altyd net sex so What!!!

  • fred.potgieter.92 - 2013-01-14 18:04

    If you don't like it, don't watch it. I don't watch cricket, but it's on TV.

  • ian.thompson.562 - 2013-01-14 18:05

    I am a subscriber to Top TV.My dish is situated on the roof of my house complete with the Top TV logo on its face. If the porn channels are introduced, any passers-by will see the dish and automatically assume that we are watching porn. Sorry Top TV. You will have to go.

      Clive.D.Buckley - 2013-01-14 19:01

      Ian, that's like saying, "if they see a telephone line going into my home, they will assume I have an ADSL line and am watching porn on the net"...

  • jerry.pres - 2013-01-14 18:33

    Maybe they should also call for national boycott of Google. There you can search and find free porn anytime. Stupid idiots. Every child can find free porn on internet. Because some people cannot control self and they kids, must be banned. I am quite sure that your kids saw on the net more what you can dream of. Hypocrites. Don't like don't watch. Parental control ? Easy to control, just don't give your PIN to anyone.

  • Shaun - 2013-01-14 19:16

    I think this whole attempt of top tv to make porn a viewers choice is ridiculous. If there isn't enough porn in the world already. Imagine this. Your son or daughter of 14 finds out what the access code is. Would you like them to view or as a matter of fact learn from a tv show than from yourself as a parent. I think its immoral and should not be aired. My family are subscribers to top tv and we will cancel our subscription with immediate effect if this does materializes. Just something to think about.

      Gareth Deeble - 2013-01-15 16:25

      Make sure they dint know the code thats being a good parent

  • mornay.walters.7 - 2013-01-14 19:37

    I support Top T.V in their new venture - If you don't want to watch the channel then don't.... It's like smoking - i like to smoke now and then when i am in the mood - I will then sit in the smoking section at a restaurant to respect those who don't. So respect the guys who enjoy watching a cheap thrill :)

  • corne.573 - 2013-01-14 19:51

    So they will protest against the content by not watching? Huh, am I missing something here??

  • herman.burger.5 - 2013-01-14 20:30

    Porn is for losers.

  • williamwamala.nsubuga - 2013-01-14 23:13

    @Dienaakte Good statistics but you have forgotten one thing that the population of the world is about 8 billion people, that of South Africa ,going by the recent census, is only 55 million out of that 55 million I guess only 10 percent can afford to view Pay Tv Channels that is about 5 million equivalent to a 1/40000th. of the world population. Can you tell us how banning the porn channels in Suth Africa will reduce the above statistics?

  • kevin.gillespie.948 - 2013-01-15 00:49

    If they do start broadcasting, I might get.

  • perter.damingo - 2013-01-15 07:59

    Why don't these people go suck a lollipop in their bedroom

  • massynrc - 2013-01-15 08:15

    So why all the issue about top tv? Have you seen some of the sex stuff news 24 publishes? Lol . Or just do a google.... It is already in all your homes....

  • bigshott1 - 2013-01-15 08:35

    South Africans Mus stop giving us a holy r thou act, we all knw dat everybody loves porn, so let ther b porn! let not b boycotting!

  • Pretty Cool Nofuya - 2013-01-15 09:59

    i feel pity for the dude that thinks porn is love, after all i wud'nt care less if Top TV screen porn or not, bt i wud'nt lyk to b da 1 dilivering