How much skin will TopTV show?

2013-04-28 17:14
Jackie Mapiloko, City Press

Johannesburg - Get ready for TV listings such as Around the World in 80 Babes and 69 Sexy Things 2 Do Before You Die.

These are two of the shows that could soon be flighted by TopTV after they received the go-ahead to broadcast three porn channels.

And word is that once they start showing X-rated movies and TV shows, local adult films could be produced too.

The Icasa approval follows an almost six-month battle between it and TopTV’s parent company, On Digital Media.

Icasa spokesperson Paseka Maleka said most of those who deliberated on the decision didn't want to grant TopTV's porn wish, but couldn’t find a legal reason not to.

"People were against it for mostly religious reasons, or because they believe it is not morally correct and perpetuates violence," Maleka said.

"TopTV explained itself. People get it on the internet and other countries have this already. Why not South Africa?"

So what exactly can TopTV customers expect to get from their R199 per month subscription now that porn is legal on their TV screens? Aside from TV shows like Hot Babes Doing Stuff Naked?

The package comes with three channels run by a partner of Playboy Enterprises that will run each day from 20:00 to 05:00  Playboy TV, Desire TV and Private Spice.

Now showing on Playboy TV in other countries the shows include Naughty Amateur Home Videos and The Boy Nexxt Door.

TopTV’s Icasa application lists South African porn producer Viv Thomas as someone whose work will be aired on Desire. Thomas' films include The Art of Kissing and Portrait of a Lesbian.

Sexuality clinician Dr Eve contributed a report to TopTV’s Icasa presentation explaining why South Africans have the right to subscribe to adult content, or what she calls "high-quality stuff".

"My God, who wouldn't want to watch it?" she said, laughing.

"I am not a big porn fan, but I want to have it available to see what it's about. I’m curious. People are curious to see. Am I normal?" she said.

"Have I been doing sex right all these years?"

Charl du Plessis, editor of Playboy magazine in South Africa, which is part of Playboy Enterprises but not directly linked to the TV channel, doubts whether TopTV would have any "penetration of the middle class", which is already dominated by DStv.

"Post-Fifty Shades of Grey, they think they can break into the middle class, but then people must explain [to visitors] why they have two boxes on top of their TV," he said. "They would prefer to hide them in their bedrooms."

With nine hours of porn screened daily, Du Plessis says the channels may have to incorporate local content to keep people watching porn on TV and not on the internet.

"It wouldn't be very difficult for someone in a sleazy warehouse south of Johannesburg to get a couple of lights and video production," he said. "But they should get a scriptwriter."

Although TopTV has been given the go-ahead, it cannot yet say if they will actually start offering porn in their line-up.

Since the pay TV operator is under business rescue, they will not launch the stations until the company is taken over by new shareholders, said their public relations consultant Janet de Kretser.

In a statement, TopTV called the decision to grant them the porn licence a "victory for democracy and freedom of speech and choice in our country", but proceeding with the launch of these channels will "be taken with due regard".

 

Comments

  • Nadia Dedekind - 2013-04-28 18:54

    Matthew 5:29 - If your right eye causes you to stumble, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. Not sure if all of you have watched the movie Fireproof but for those who have, the scene where the man gets tempted decides to then throw out and break his computer screen. This can relate to the verse Matthew 5:29 Watch out for parasites. A parasite is anything that latches onto you or your partner and sucks the life out of your marriage. They're usually in the form of addictions like gambling, drugs or pornography. They promise pleasure but grow like a disease and consume more and more of your thoughts, time and money. they steal away your loyalty and heart from those you love. Marriage is rare to survive if parasites are present. If you love your wife, you must destroy any addiction that has your heart. If you don't, it will destroy you. http://youtu.be/t89Hsem2LkI Remove anything that is hindering your relationship, stealing your affections and turning your heart away from your spouse. I Corinthians 13:7 “Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.” http://www.hopeonline.co.za/so-whats-so-bad-about-pornography/

      James Blacksmith - 2013-04-29 00:20

      @GB You managed to find a website (among the 649 million out there) where 'research' showed Christians consumed more porn than non-Christians? but failed to even understand the claim (on page 1) that "despite on average consuming the same amount of adult entertainment as others." suggests they consume 'THE SAME' volume? PS: 2,000 years? Surely you could do better by referring to Mosaic Law and stretch that number to 6,000 or so? Then again, perhaps God instructing man not to have sex with their livestock was too demonic for you to even 'put in ink'! Strive to be a better atheist, for everyone's sake. Goodness,

      GB Garratt - 2013-04-29 04:27

      James Whether they consume more porn or the same amount of porn makes no difference as far as my point is concerned. All these holier-than-thou Christians are hypocrites.

      James Blacksmith - 2013-04-29 08:51

      @GB: Great, so this isn't about whether porn has an adverse effect on the way woman will be viewed in an already violent society, but rather your issues with religion.

      GB Garratt - 2013-04-29 09:49

      James Both In fact your god and religion are the principle causes of the denigration and suppression of women. Want me to spell it out?

      James Blacksmith - 2013-04-29 10:24

      @GB: And yes further down you refer to ex prostitutes as 'ex whores'? Congrats on not denigrating woman.

      Michael Demesmaeker - 2013-04-29 11:07

      Ah stop quoting the bible ! Doesn't even mention tv or toptv in there so shut up already. How do you think you got here!

  • Johan Opperman - 2013-04-28 19:08

    "But they should get a scriptwriter." Seriously? A scriptwriter for porn????? Hahahaha!!!

      Johan du Toit - 2013-04-28 20:33

      I for one would like to see some porn with more of a story.

  • norman.landman - 2013-04-28 19:14

    So good to have comments like yours, the bible seems to be left out all the time, yet its the guideline we as christians should always refer to. These things sadden Jehovahs heart and disgust him

      James Blacksmith - 2013-04-29 10:06

      @GB: There are over 450,000 churches in the USA alone. If only 1% of those pastors behaved inappropriately at SOME POINT, you would have 4,500 articles to reference. Christians are not people that 'lead or attend church'. Christians are by definition 'followers' of Christ and 'followers of Christ' by definition cannot behave in ways that contradict His teaching, i.e the examples quoted above, were not actions by Christians. It is interesting that you assume however that the only people that could possible oppose pornography must be Christians! Can atheists not object to pornography, hindu's or muslims? How judgemental to assume atheists do not object to woman being abused!

  • norman.landman - 2013-04-28 19:38

    Yes, that is what is know as false religion or babylon the great, this will one day be destroyed by God, sure He is doing nothing now to those who are not repentant, but at armagedon it will be another story, sodom and gamora are examples of His anger toward these sorts of things. "You will know them by their fruits" if a religion is allowing or not suitably taking action against such members, then one should wonder if their fruits are revealing if they have Gods support and if its the right religion one should want to be a part of.

      James Blacksmith - 2013-04-29 10:16

      @GB "Because my pastor told me so." The scriptures states the only way to salvation is though Jesus. Either that is true or it is not true. Hinduism, Islam and Christianity can't all be true, any believe that claims so is irrational.

  • norman.landman - 2013-04-28 20:31

    Mr Garrat, so you professor porn then? Looks like you the expert on this topic, not much to be proud of

      GB Garratt - 2013-04-28 20:38

      Abnormal Handyman You may say that because you actually cannot counter anything I have posted. That's ok. I understand. Now go back and get Jesus to give you a big HUG so you can feel better about yourself. And stay away from the internet with your credit card. The religious do love their porn http://furiouspurpose.me/the-religious-do-love-their-porn/ Hypocrites.

      GB Garratt - 2013-04-28 20:50

      Preachermen like these Pastor on $3,000,000 bail charged with oral copulation of a person under the age of 14 http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/07/inglewood-pastor-arrested-on-suspicion-of-sexual-abuse-of-a-mino.html Pastor Andrea Lewis of the Act on Faith Ministries,arrested on three counts of molestation of a juvenile. http://www.wmbfnews.com/story/19273994/shreveport-pastor-arrested-accused-of-molesting-teen-girls Pastor took nude photos of the boys he molested http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2012/07/02/California-pastor-arrested-for-molestation/UPI-84701341250685/#ixzz1zVq2sxyX Pastor John t. Vine sentenced to 22 years in prison for molesting a 12-year-old girl. http://www.newschannel5.com/story/19227410/former-pastor-sentenced-on-sexual-battery-charges Reverend Andrzej Urbaniak pleaded guilty to charges that he possessed and distributed child pornography. http://www1.whdh.com/news/articles/local/boston/12008157104539/south-boston-pastor-arrested-on-child-porn-charges/#ixzz234ePtVUj Florida pastor convicted of sex crimes against a 15-year-old boy gobbled a handful of pills after receiving sentence in an apparent courtroom suicide attempt.. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/disgraced-florida-pastor-courtroom-suicide-pops-pills-child-sex-abuse-conviction-article-1.1133687 Not nice norman. Not nice at all. BTW, there are thousands of these reports every year. I can post some more if you want.

      Francois-Jacques Malan - 2013-04-28 20:59

      @GB not all Christians are bigots, I (as a Christian) am happy for TopTV and SA. I also feel sorry for bigots, (my God tells me not to hate them... but I do pity them). You get bigots all over the world, at least in SA the Christian ones don't try to blow up airplanes and buildings. So, thank God for that!

  • norman.landman - 2013-04-28 20:54

    I dont disagree with the fact that many church people are involved in this, I hate it and because they carry the title of being Christian or religious

      GB Garratt - 2013-04-29 04:40

      BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH" And I want to stop them. I want to interfere with their rights to watch and read what they choose to watch and read. I want to stop them. I want to stop them. Look at me. I am such a personal friend of Jesus. Look at how holier-than-thou I am. I want to stop them. BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!

  • Ntombi Zulu - 2013-04-28 20:57

    Does GB Garratt work for Top TV?

      GB Garratt - 2013-04-29 04:44

      No. He just believes that adults have the right to read and watch what they want to read and watch. In the good old days of apartheid they censored what people could watch and read. They do that in places like Saudi Arabia and China as well. Is that what you want. BTW, I have absolutely no interest in even subscribing to TopTV. But I am damned if anyone has the right to try and stop others from doing so.

      James Blacksmith - 2013-04-29 10:37

      You'll notice his thumbs up or thumbs down occur in batches, but no, not even Top TV would want him to be an advocate for their cause.

  • norman.landman - 2013-04-28 21:00

    :))))))

  • Samantha Dann van Niekerk - 2013-04-29 00:18

    Yes FREEDOM that is what the world asks for ALL the time and when they get it what do they do with it, more freedom for horny paedophiles, dropping the legal age of consensual sex to 12 why not add snuff movies and torture and all that give criminals more ideas and access WELL DONE SOUTH AFRICA you really are AHEAD of times

      GB Garratt - 2013-04-29 04:54

      Citation please. Please provide evidence that adults watching TV in private increases paedophilia or encourages 12 year olds to have sex. In fact a man in a smart suit, silly hat or a smart suit waving a bible is far more likely to promote paedophilia or have sex with a 12 year old. You people need to stop making stuff up.

      GB Garratt - 2013-04-29 04:56

      Boy, aged 7 beaten to death in Las Vegas by his parents after failing to read the Bible. http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2012/dec/03/mother-stepfather-arrested-beating-death-7-year-ol/ Former youth pastor John Astorga was convicted of sex abuse. The victim was under the age of 12. http://www.myfoxal.com/story/20270309/former-youth-minister-convicted-of-sex-abuse Baptist pastor James M. Burton was arrested on charges of repeatedly molesting a 6 year old female foster child in his care. http://www.indianasnewscenter.com/news/local/Fort-Wayne-Pastor-Arrested-on-Charges-of--182349301.html Baptist pastor Otis Jetter, 70, was arrested on multiple warrants for child molestation. http://www.wishtv.com/dpp/news/crime/indy-pastor-accused-of-child-molesting Pastor of New Albany church faces sodomy charges http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20121213/NEWS01/312130088/Pastor-faces-sodomy-charges Retired priest John Haley Dossor jailed for historic sex abuse http://www.eadt.co.uk/news/suffolk_retired_priest_john_haley_dossor_jailed_for_historic_sex_abuse_1_1744435 Better if these guys had subscribed to TopTV, hey?

      GB Garratt - 2013-04-29 04:57

      Youth Minister Sentenced To Prison For Sexually Assaulting Girl http://permianbasin360.com/fulltext?nxd_id=252022 Verizon turns in Baltimore church deacon for storing child porn in cloud http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/03/verizon-turns-in-baltimore-church-deacon-for-storing-child-porn-in-cloud/ Youth Minister Sentenced To Prison For Sexually Assaulting Girl http://permianbasin360.com/fulltext?nxd_id=252022 Verizon turns in Baltimore church deacon for storing child porn in cloud http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/03/verizon-turns-in-baltimore-church-deacon-for-storing-child-porn-in-cloud/ Indiana pastor told girl Jesus sanctioned sexual relationship http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-prosecutors-indiana-pastor-told-girl-jesus-sanctioned-relationship-20130314,0,4717729.story Pastor arrested, charged with child molestation, other charges http://fox4kc.com/2013/03/12/former-kc-pastor-arrested-for-child-molestation-other-charges/ 27 year sentence for serial pedophile youth minister http://www.katc.com/news/lafayette-man-pleads-guilty-to-enticing-a-minor-to-engage-in-sexual-conduct/ Youth pastor accused of having more than 12,000 images of child pornography http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S2987860.shtml?cat=504

      GB Garratt - 2013-04-29 05:00

      Need I post more. Every day somewhere a child is groped, molested and raped by a bible waving preacherman. SO get off you holier-than-thou high horse and take a peek around your own congregation. Christianity, in most of its many forms, is in fact a totally immoral dogma. The claim that one can behave like a total selfish and uncaring bastard towards your fellows during the week, go to church on Sunday, toss a sufficiency of money towards the preacherman and be absolved, and not have to take responsibility for, one's despicable behaviour is a totally immoral, disgusting and contemptible concept.

  • Fotseka Mafoetseka - 2013-04-30 06:13

    Nkandla wil multiply as soon as TopTv shows porn, im sure shower man can't wait

      John Corner - 2013-05-02 12:20

      are you saying that to get thumbs up from the afrikaanas?

      Yvonne Molefe - 2013-05-24 16:56

      Top Tv porn shows has nothing to do with Nkandla

  • Tefello Raisa - 2013-06-15 23:14

    i want top tv to show really porn like thos of black american they show everything i like thz cz the shw everythng

  • Ceba Mlandu - 2013-07-12 18:28

    Must.......get......top.....tv

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