TopTV gets green light for porn

2013-04-24 13:44
Cape Town ­ - TopTV's application to air three adult channels on their pay-TV service has been approved by the Independent Communications Authority of South Africa (Icasa), as there is no law preventing TopTV from broadcasting porn in South Africa.

Icasa said on Wednesday that it had approved On Digital Media's (ODM) application to broadcast the three porn content channels: Playboy TV, Desire TV and Private Spice, during the watershed period between 20:00 and 05:00.

Icasa said it upholds the view that "there is no law of general application prohibiting the production and distribution of adult content in the Republic. Only the production and distribution of child pornography is expressly prohibited by law."

'No basis or law for the rejection'

The application was approved on the basis that the TopTV will ensure that programming which contains sexually explicit scenes, conduct and/or offensive language intended for adult audiences will not be broadcast before the watershed period; and all the security measures including the double PIN code proposed by TopTV in its application are in place to safeguard children's rights.

"The Authority has also considered all submissions made in respect of this application from all interested stakeholders and it was found that most of the representations made were based on moral grounds; rather than a research evidence to demonstrate some of the conclusive remarks linking pornography and gender-based violence. It is the Authority's view that indeed there is no basis or law for the rejection of Top TV's application," Icasa spokesperson Paseka Maleka said.

TopTV hopes the successful porn application will turn the business' fortunes as it is currently under business rescue and courting a Chinese investor, StarTimes media group.

The channels will be provided to TopTV by Playboy TV UK / Benelux Limited in England and uplinked through SES Platform Services in Munich, Germany to South Africa.

TopTV have not yet stated when they plan to launch the three porn channels in South Africa.

Comments

  • Continental04 - 2013-04-24 13:51

    so they've gone this far to broadcast Porn wow TopTv your so pathetic.

      Bob Wowzer - 2013-04-24 14:02

      You don't like what they're doing so now they're pathetic?

      ianmichaelcalder - 2013-04-24 14:02

      Yeah, I much prefer to be able to google my own porn anyway, since there isn't nearly enough midget stuff on the mainstream channels.

      Tuco Angeleyes - 2013-04-24 14:12

      Its even more pathetic that you acting as if TopTV is forcing you to subscribe. Nowhere in the article is it written that TopTV will force people to subscribe.

      Mark Smith - 2013-04-24 14:57

      Great! Where's the lube. ;D

      Ivan Beers - 2013-04-24 15:35

      More youth in this country own a cellphone then a tv! porn is widely available on these cellphones so why no fuss about it? why is there so much fuss about soft porn on tv? trust me the youngsters would rather download the hardcore stuff from their cells , soft porn no ne likes anymore!

      Gavin Simpson - 2013-04-24 15:37

      Thats a daft thing to say Continental04. Have u tried watching etv at night lately? maybe now the powers that be can stop them from broadcasting all that irritating garbage over and over and over and over.... etv- catch a wake up.

      Gavin Green - 2013-04-24 15:37

      YYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

  • Steve du Preez - 2013-04-24 13:55

    :) so they think 1000's of people will now rush out to buy their services?? Weird because most porn is free in the internet - and don't look so shocked, we've all tasted the "forbidden fruit"

      Regte Boer - 2013-04-24 14:15

      Many years ago we had Scope in SA. It was full of stars covering the strategic bits. It was a very popular mag. Then they removed all stars and showed all. Soon after they went under. We also had a flood of porn magazines shortly after '94. Most of them dissapeared too. People will watch for a short while out of curiousity and then Top-TV will fade away...

      Mark Smith - 2013-04-24 14:54

      @Regte Boer. Scope magazine did not go under because they were allowed to remove the stars and thus their readers lost interest. They closed down because they faced stiff competition (excuse the pun) from other porn magazines like Hustler, Playboy and others that published more hardcore content.

      DOC - 2013-04-24 15:00

      Spot on.

      RM Elegant - 2013-04-24 17:41

      so Hustler had a "hand" in Scope going "down" MARKT??

  • christopher.stokes1 - 2013-04-24 13:59

    Porn shows happy adults ddoing what happy adults do. If you are against porn don't watch it or pay for the service, but don't deny people their right to freedom of choice.

      Oscar Blade - 2013-04-24 14:23

      Tshepo...what language are you writing?

      Albert Scherman - 2013-04-24 15:11

      Tshepo had a brain fart and puked over the keyboard. Please excuse the jibbirish...

      Tuco Angeleyes - 2013-04-24 15:57

      Tshepo Mukwevho next time please wash and dry your hands after jerking off. what ever you typed is not coherent because your fingers are now sticky.

      Hein Huyser - 2013-04-24 16:51

      CS, Funny that the USA taught us the concept of "freedom of choice", now they have in excess of 500 000 abortions per year and rising. This moral corfupt government can't even tell us how many legal/illegal vitizens sre in this country, nevermind the ammount of legal and illegal abortions happen in SA. We asca nation is not ready fir this type of tv, that gives a false impression of what is supposed to be a revered action between people in a marriage. We dabble in an area what we do not know how our mentally immature adults will react to. Be warned and dont tell us later that you were not warned.

      Ian Calder - 2013-04-25 07:29

      A revered action of people in a marriage Hein, or the built in survival instinct that is hard coded into every living creature on this beautiful planet. Really not sure what the poor illegal immigrants have to do with a porn channel in South Africa, unless you are trying to say that they are coming here for it? As for the mentally immature, maybe this will give them something to keep their hands busy that they aren't stealing everything that is not bolted down eh?

      James Blacksmith - 2013-04-25 11:45

      Perhaps you watched 'porn' in the 70's Christopher. A recent survey showed 88% of porn watched contains images or scenes of violence against woman. http://hcdocu.blogspot.com/ Take your time to understand what it is you're really watching.

  • EkasiBoy - 2013-04-24 14:09

    Feast urself porn addicts!

  • James Blacksmith - 2013-04-24 14:09

    Great, as incidents of rape and child abuse increase in South Africa, let's open a few more porn channels. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2287596/NSPCC-Online-porn-blamed-children-aged-just-FIVE-quizzed-sex-offences.html

      Oscar Blade - 2013-04-24 14:17

      Your article suggests a few cases of minors committing sexual crimes are due to porn being easily accessible on the INTERNET!! There is still no broad based study, with control groups, to suggest that this is true... And as the article points out this is easily available on the internet...What top tv is offering is going to be so encoded (not too mention having to pay extra), I will be surprised if anyone subscribes to it.

      Jo Davies - 2013-04-24 16:23

      Interesting James, how there are also arguments to the contrary, putting forward a believe that porn REDUCES rape. Just saying

      Ian Calder - 2013-04-24 16:25

      James Blacksmith - thats the most manly name I've ever seen. Actually, its good enough to be a porn name?! Listen, while you take a break from making adult flicks, go a little deeper on Google and read the hundreds of articles and studies showing that porn has NO INFLUENCE on rape. And I'll prove it, right here on the internet, right now. Porn is freely available on the internet - Take the demographic of persons who have internet (the same people who could afford a paid TV service), and check their conviction rate for rape. Do the same for people with no access to the internet, and come back here and report what you've found.

      James Blacksmith - 2013-04-25 00:06

      The NSPCC is one of the largest charities in secular Britain. In other words, it would not oppose porn based on religious or a moral basis, but only if it found it had a causal link to child abuse. Porn may be freely available on the internet, but not everyone in South Africa 1. owns a computer 2. can afford ADSL TopTV (R299 for Dish, Decoder, Install) is aiming at a less affluent demographic and effectively bringing porn to this demographic. So yes, in a country where 25% of men have admitted to rape and video taping gang rapes becomes the norm, it seems a pretty stupid idea to encourage sex, particularly the type where woman are strangled, beaten, spat on, punched...the list goes on. Child rape cases in India have witnessed a 336% rise since 2001. One would think with porn clearly reducing the incidents of rape, the internet boom would see a reduction over the last 10 years? Odd, it just so happens to coincide? Just India? Try Scotland http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scotland/8749319/Rape-attacks-in-Scotland-increase-to-record-levels.html 58% increase in rape compared to the previous decade, despite the overall crime rate dropping? http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/online-porn-blamed-for-rise-in-sexual-violence.17981853 http://vaw.sagepub.com/content/16/10/1065.short Of the 304 scenes analyzed, 88.2% contained physical aggression, principally spanking, gagging, and slapping Supply meets demand. Simple.

      Ian Calder - 2013-04-25 07:21

      Good job, no mention of committed crime vs reported (reporting rape thankfully, is on the up). No mention of cultural influences (rape can cure AIDS and all of those myths). You speak of the costs - Yet you neglect to consider that its an OPT IN service. And if you believe a charity has no decision makers (and I'm talking about individuals with their own beliefs and agendas), you are losing it? Lastly - other opinions aside - Rape is a scourge, as is child abuse, and more should be done to try stamp it out, but considering they have both been around since the dawn of the time, internet and TV displaying porn have hardly been the things creating the issue. Overpopulation leading to increasing poverty, lack of education, etc, are all much much more direct influences. And I can paste articles proving that for hours.

      Oscar Blade - 2013-04-25 07:42

      Your argument falls apart immediately James... not everyone owns a computer and can afford ADSL?!!! Are you for real? Ever heard of a cellphone? Smartphone? If your kid has one of those, they are going to watch porn...sorry it's a fact. It's up to you as a parent to teach them what all of it means....

      James Blacksmith - 2013-04-25 11:01

      Ian, 1. "Reported Rape is on the increase?" No,there is simply no to this claim. In fact as you may well know, rape remains one of the least reported crimes worldwide. 2. "No mention of cultural influences (rape can cure AIDS and all of those myths)." And this locallised view also exists in Scotland, India, the USA? No it doesn't. 3. "You speak of the costs - Yet you neglect to consider that its an OPT IN service." You think a company losing money is going to invest in a porn channel for a fee their subscribers (less affluent) can't afford? No. 4. "And if you believe a charity has no decision makers (and I'm talking about individuals with their own beliefs and agendas), you are losing it?" The NSPCC are filled with mostly secular folk who obtained degrees in statistics and psychology. There is zero room for personal influence or inflicting one's own beliefs in their findings. Continued...

      James Blacksmith - 2013-04-25 11:10

      5. "but considering they have both been around since the dawn of the time, internet and TV displaying porn have hardly been the things creating the issue" And yet we see rape as a percentage of crime on the increase since the VCR explosion and then futher with the rise of porn over the internet? We're only starting to see the results of a generation exposed to porn via the internet. Here we have the REPORTED incidents of rape as a percentage of crime (note the actual would be significantly higher) 1960 0.51% 1980 0.62% 1990 0.71% 2010: 0.82% Let's close off with Sweden, now the rape CAPITAL of Europe. http://www.thelocal.se/19102/20090427/ One can only wonder why this educated and affluent country has problems? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pornography_by_region Sweden has no age laws for the possession or viewing of pornography. Some shops follow a voluntary limit and do not sell to minors. Material that involves animals is de facto legal, though it is subject to animal-welfare laws. Still, what could have possible caused rape figures to explode in Scotland? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pornography_by_region Video-oriented depictions of hardcore material (with certain exceptions for works considered primarily 'artistic' rather than pornographic) were ILLEGAL UNTIL 1999, when the removal of trade barriers with other European Union member states allowed for the relatively free movement of such goods for personal use Curious Ian, how many kids do you have?

      James Blacksmith - 2013-04-25 11:30

      "Are you for real? Ever heard of a cellphone? Smartphone? If your kid has one of those, they are going to watch porn...sorry it's a fact. It's up to you as a parent to teach them what all of it means.... " Oscar, the majority of folk I employ are on 'pay as you go', they struggle to afford sending SMS's, so are hardly going to spend R60 on a slow internet connection to watch porn on their Nokia. TopTV subscribers tend to be slightly less well off than folk that can afford your IPhone, but it certainly will make the distribution easier. I appreciate folk can get porn online, that is not the debate. The issue remains that the more kids are exposed to porn (and let's not pretend kids are idiots and won't be able to access it), the more it is going to have adverse effects. There are numerous examples where kids have re-enacted scenes they've seen online. It porn can affect grown up men, it certainly will have an impact on 12 year old kids. As for how do you explain it to your kids? Do you imagine somehow your kids will necessarily approach you after they've watched porn? Good luck.

  • Johan du Toit - 2013-04-24 14:48

    Hallelujah.

  • Jurgen Eksteen - 2013-04-24 14:50

    I can already see TopTV surpassing Dstv's revenue within 3 to 4 months. Lol Some households will be adding "daddy's (or mommy's) special room" where Timmy isn't allowed to enter.

  • Anakin Sky-Vader - 2013-04-24 14:56

    Putting aside the issue of how moral/immoral the content is makes me wonder which subscribers are actually going to have the time to watch it in real time. The internet is THE next generation of tv whether we like it or not. Type in .tv in the domain section of any search engine (as opposed to .co.za for instance) and then type in 'movies' in the search box and see what happens: About 18,000,000 results. Or if you want your regular episodes of "Without-a-trace" in the correct order you can torrent it. There are even torrent-boxes for sale that can download the stuff you want during the day so you can watch it later in the eve when you are at home - in HD if you want - the only remaining barrier being uncapped data. So - back to TopTV : Say for eg. you want to watch your porn later - ie you want to 'time-shift' it - well that's not possible, because of the "double PIN" requirement (ie you can't pre-set your recording equipment's timer to record it when you are not home). So the subscriber is left with the only option to watch it 'live'. I sincerely doubt this is going to attract more subscribers. The internet is already known for it's extremely wide and diversified selection of porn for whoever wants what, I predict that broadcasting pre-selected porn-content will only satisfy a minority of subscribers whilst running the risk of alienating existing TopTv subscribers.

  • George Lyon - 2013-04-24 14:57

    I hope they're not going to show re-runs like DSTV the whole time. For my porn, I prefer original story-lines! Can news24 also please inform us of the different TopTV options, prices and where we can subscribe?

      Robbie - 2013-04-24 15:10

      George please forward me the info when you get it. Thanks

      RM Elegant - 2013-04-24 16:43

      still asking for your "friend" eh Robbie?? :)

      Robbie - 2013-04-24 19:35

      That info is for a friend(not me)!!!

  • Greg Martin - 2013-04-24 14:58

    Already access to porn on the web is a problem, now its going to be on national(subscription only) tv. Why not show programme's that educate people about the dangers of porn etc. Porn should not be shown on tv, in a country where rape happens all the time this will further exaggerate the problem of child and women abuse especially. Even more ridiculous is the time slot of 20h00 pm till 05h00 am.

      Johan du Toit - 2013-04-24 15:12

      Why not watch programs about "the dangers of porn" at your local church? Spare the rest of us the guilt trip, OK?

  • Micheal Chelemu - 2013-04-24 14:58

    No wonder SA is a nation of savages.

      Johan du Toit - 2013-04-24 15:15

      Are you aware that they have not started broadcasting yet?

      Jo Davies - 2013-04-24 16:25

      @Johan Ha ha. Don't you hate having to point out the obvious all the time...

  • Fredster69 - 2013-04-24 14:58

    Great, just what our rape ridden society needs...shame on you

      Elgh Elgh - 2013-04-24 15:15

      Ag just blame it on apartheid...

      Johan du Toit - 2013-04-24 15:16

      Yes, exactly what we need: http://voices.yahoo.com/online-pornography-helping-lower-rape-incidents-study-2612381.html?cat=5

      Bob Smit - 2013-04-24 15:37

      more porn = more rape or more porn = less rape... i bet perverts will spend more time watching porn and sex crime will drop!

  • Siphiwo Khuzwayo - 2013-04-24 15:40

    Just hoping parents will play their roles to monitor programmes watched by school-going kids. I also hope that, those who will watch that much, should be able to control the behaviours as that may translate into more women being raped as we are still a nationa that is still hooked in all sorts of ills in our societies. I mean, you will have to bring something new to a well-oiled society, a society that is ready, I am scared, we are not ready. We still have so many are challenges to overcome first.

  • Gerrit Volschenk - 2013-04-24 15:44

    In this democracy of ours some would support this and some would stand against it.That's life. Personally I see this as a moral issue. For those that support it each time you watch it picture your daughter in the leading role and then tell me there is nothing sickening about it. TOPTV will not last another twelve months and their doors will be shut.

  • Lulu Rudo Shezi - 2013-04-24 15:53

    disgusting

  • Lulu Rudo Shezi - 2013-04-24 15:53

    Disgusting

  • Sheikh Umar Onias Maposa - 2013-04-24 16:02

    signs of the end of time...

      Oscar Blade - 2013-04-24 16:07

      You people have been seeing signs for the past 2000 years...you are bound to get it right one day.

      Johan du Toit - 2013-04-24 16:33

      @Sheikh, all I can say to you is: "Don't be afraid" - Isaiah 41:10

  • Desmond Drake - 2013-04-24 16:08

    now I will get TOP TV

  • Mdu 'Sizwe' Khumalo - 2013-04-24 16:16

    Lafa izwe

  • Hlungwane Marvin - 2013-04-24 16:18

    we should remember one thing YOU ALL HAVE A CHOICE TO SUBSCRIBE OR UNSUBCRIBE,

  • xchemistx73 - 2013-04-24 16:20

    Since our government is so eager to dish out condoms to children in the hopes of curbing aids instead of promoting abstinence then hopefully now the kids will be able to watch exactly how to put a rubber on with refresher courses offered every night from 8 till late.

  • Zarum4n - 2013-04-24 16:23

    h8te irt wen pe0pl wraight lik des!

  • Thapelo Matibidi - 2013-04-24 16:23

    Good news

  • Johann Enslin - 2013-04-24 18:08

    These are some of the funniest comments on any article ever! *Snort*

  • Thomas Mentike - 2013-04-24 18:12

    why not challenge dstv for live soccer broadcast? they should get real cos 60% of Dstv subscribers are mainly for sports. cricket, soccer, tennis, golf, etc. they will never compete with porn useless green light.

  • Thomas Mentike - 2013-04-24 18:20

    Is porn a thing to celebrate? their license should be revoked, africa has sold their pride to meet up with useless modern world and the price will be heavy, not now but in near future.

      Saad Saab - 2013-05-16 18:07

      Porn

  • Durell Mason Dunn - 2013-04-25 15:46

    Sex sells,it's a Fact !!! Even though i dislike the idea.

  • Stan Man - 2013-04-26 15:10

    Nothing good will cum of this (pun intended). More encouragement for rapists.

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