TopTV wants to air porn 24/7

2013-03-14 10:39
Thinus Ferreira
Cape Town – TopTV wants porn all day and says it will "not be viable" or "commercially savvy" to only broadcast adult content during what the TV industry refers to as the "watershed period" between late night and early morning.

TopTV, which is applying for the right to broadcast three sex channels in South Africa on the South African pay-TV operator's platform, wants to pump the pornographic material for 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

In its written application to Icasa, TopTV says it wants the sex channels to broadcast all day long and not just during what the TV industry refers to as the "watershed period" – the time period after 20:00 and before 05:00 when more mature and risqué content can be broadcast.

All day sex channels

"We respectfully submit that the watershed period should not be an issue with respect to this channel as the material would remain blocked at all times and be viewable only to those adults who select to use the combination of PINs provided to access said material," says TopTV in its written application.

TopTV says all the programmes on the porn channels will have "a rating of at least R18".

"It will not be practicable to only schedule some material outside of the watershed period as all material will be of an adult nature," says TopTV in its application.

"It will also not be viable and commercially savvy to run a channel from 20:00 to 05:00 only, as that will not be suitable and/or appealing to the majority of the audience interested in the channel/content. Thus, to ensure that there is no transgression or circumvention of the protection offered by the watershed period, ODM will ensure that all material on the channels remain blocked at all times."

ODM's acting CEO, Eddie Mbalo says the group "sees adult content as a key business driver".

The struggling On Digital Media (ODM) which runs TopTV, and which is currently under business rescue according to the Companies Act, is having its public hearing for its "application for authorisation for channels" on Thursday before South Africa's broadcasting regulator, the Independent Communications Authority of South Africa (Icasa).

TopTV applied for a second time to broadcast three sex channels as a separate bouquet. This time TopTV wants to broadcast Playboy TV, Desire TV and Private Spice as a separate bouquet, which comes with a rating classification of R18.

The sex channels are provided to TopTV by Playboy TV UK/Benelux Limited in England and are uplinked through SES Platform Services in Munich, Germany to South Africa.

TopTV plans to address the the regulator at the hearing and answer questions, something which TopTV declined to do in its public hearing a year ago, after which Icasa denied its first "authorisation for channels".

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Comments

  • zuko.mqolo - 2013-03-14 10:58

    Toptv go for it icasa must grant them permission to broadcast the channels 24/7 its not like the under 18s will have any access to watch channels cos there's gonna be a pin block

      Netsianda Avhasei Rowan - 2013-03-14 12:49

      Walter, the dstv pin is 9949. its not something that you have to figure out it is a "public" pin. alternatively u can press menu > 13 if u wanna skip the pin process. the toptv pin aint gonna be "public" pin like but personal pin similar to ur bank pin.

      Rainbow Nation - 2013-03-14 13:13

      The problem with the porn channels is not about accesability but about the fact that we have one of the highest rape levels int he world. sex Crimes against woman and children are on the increase imagine what will happen if this filth is available to almost every household in south africa ( millions have top tv even in the squatter camps). This is akin to placing flamable logs on a fire. If you are for porn of television then you are a selfish minded person who cares nothing about what is going on around you. Porn should be banned even on the internet it is a filthy , evil cancer and we should be opposing it to protect our children abd grandchildren.

      RM Elegant - 2013-03-14 14:45

      so it's fine we allow movies that encourage stealing (Fast n Furios, Takers etc) given the high crime rate in the country dominated by theft yet deny Top TV porn packages because "it encourages rape"?? Talk about idiotic reasoning

      bonham.butt - 2013-03-14 14:57

      Hey Walter, don't lump atheists in with pedophiles please. There is no evidence to suggest there is a correlation between the two. There is however a huge correlation between certain religious groups and pedophilia. Perhaps the porno channels will help them to channel their desires a bit better. Go visit Western Europe where there is a lot of porn but very little sex crime. It's called civilisation.

      Sean Rossouw - 2013-03-14 15:28

      How is porn on tv related to sexual abuse? In France and the Netherlands all day porn channels are available, so shouldn't they have way higher cases of sexual abuse? The stats say otherwise.

      Rainbow Nation - 2013-03-14 15:28

      RM elagant how can you even compare the rape of woman or child with stealing. seems Youre the one with the flawed idiotic logic. We live in a society that cant control their urges and go as far as raping corpses , dogs and goats. Even the aged and babies are not safe from these perverse people. You really need to catch a wake up and smell the coffee.

      RM Elegant - 2013-03-14 16:10

      how does watching porn link to raping RAINBOW?? Any statistical or factual data to back that up??

      bonham.butt - 2013-03-14 17:15

      Walter you have lost the plot. I am a dog and my intellect is beyond the puerile drivel you put forth here. How is my surname in any way relevant? I never mentioned Catholic priests, you did and they are certainly not atheist in the accepted sense. I'm not sure how you define an atheist but I wan assure you, it's wrong. I would certainly rather leave my kids with someone who watches porn than a Catholic priest though.

      Iamtoo Smarteskse - 2013-03-15 08:37

      I say ban porn if it causes rape. Then, by the same logic, ban religion since it causes people to fly planes into buildings. Don't lump Atheists in with Satanists and pedophiles you ignorant fools.

  • Coen Venter - 2013-03-14 11:07

    just remeber you get hair on your hands from to much

      Dot Svornak - 2013-03-14 11:28

      Coen,you are so right I for will not even subscribe to this channel for this very reason.I hope they go down the drain.If you want to watch filth do it at midnight where hopefully you won't expose young minds to the sickening visions of porn.Zuko you underestimate the powers of young people today.

      RM Elegant - 2013-03-14 14:47

      and the movies with shooting & killing (Mission Impossible et al) as well as the movies encouraging stealing (Fast n Furious, Takers, Italian Job etc) must be allowed yet porn mustn't??....Selective reasoning

  • Mpho Peter Mashotja - 2013-03-14 11:21

    They can,there is no secrets anymore,even childs now adays know that things

  • Musawashe Moyo - 2013-03-14 11:23

    So their agenda to get u drunk w porn after u hve probably smoked weed n u be on ur BBM listenin to music unaware of what's happenin around u n all of a sudden a nuke drops on ur head,ya its coz u was enjoyin e porn. die biatch.

      ever.ryman - 2013-03-14 11:28

      You have been smoking something, that's for sure! Try again in English?

      Adrian Louw - 2013-03-14 11:48

      huh????

      Musawashe Moyo - 2013-03-14 11:50

      Ya l been smokin weed n watching porn n l was sleeping all day,did nt even check e news or even read a bk,all l want is more porn...nut

      Morne Marcel Churr - 2013-03-14 12:46

      Your idiotic grammar and spelling is appaling!!! Thanks for announcing that you enjoy smoking weed while watching TV. Now my day is made.Oh wait, you probably write the way you do because of your lack in brain cells from all the green you smoke.

      Musawashe Moyo - 2013-03-14 13:12

      Am glad all yall addicts got my point,hence dozens of thumbs down.

  • Russel Patterson - 2013-03-14 11:28

    And that is exactly why I don't subscribe to that rubbish.

      Simon Berry - 2013-03-14 11:43

      Good for you, no one is asking you too subscribe to them. You should also cancel your internet connection as porn is all over the internet 24/7, all year, and these websites DONT require a pin to access, so young minds can easily watch.

      SarcasticHeathen - 2013-03-14 15:43

      I mean really, how hard is it to click on the link that says: "yes I am over 18". Any 17 year old can figure that one out.

      Iamtoosmartekse - 2013-03-15 08:50

      @SarcasticHeathen. "I mean really, how hard is it to click on the link that says: "yes I am over 18". Any 17 year old can figure that one out." When I read some of the comments on this site, I think there may be people out there who won't figure that one out..

  • Mphela Wa Ga Matjie - 2013-03-14 11:41

    Go for it Top TV

      Sanele Sanza SiBeer - 2013-03-14 12:59

      I expected this from you, Mphela

  • Malehlohonolo Masilo - 2013-03-14 11:42

    OMG!!! i'm speechless. this is just for the pervs. i don't c the need for 24/7. Multichoice can you please give the compact viewers access to S2 please .

      RM Elegant - 2013-03-14 14:51

      Really?? Those who watch witchcraft movies (Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings etc) are "witches" by your reasoning?? The movies celebrating thieves (Gone in 60 seconds, fast n Furious, Takers etc) are/must be permitted, as well as those encouraging stabbing and shooting people to death (Mission Impossible, Jason Bourne etc) which are "just for killers" (by your reasoning)??

  • Vusumuzi Aubrey Nkumane - 2013-03-14 11:44

    i think ppl shud have the choice.if u not for porn then dont subscribe,simple as that.there r pins to block adult content.Porn is readily accesible on most phones nd kids cn view it freely so wats the big deal wen top tv wants to broadcast it in a controlled manner?Lets be logical abt this nd put our religious beliefs aside here

  • Mara Vermaas - 2013-03-14 11:44

    Can someone please tell me why people want to watch porn and why 24 hours a day? Don't people work, play sport, eat, sleep and do all sorts of ordinary things every day? Where on earth do they find time for an unhealthy pasttime like watching porn?

      Musawashe Moyo - 2013-03-14 12:00

      No one gonna tell you,you gotta use ur own head

      Carel Coetzee - 2013-03-14 15:32

      Mara, sounds like you haven't had it in a looooong time girl. I don't approve of watching porn, but there is other people with different sexual desires out there.

      SarcasticHeathen - 2013-03-14 15:45

      People work at different times. It has more to do with accessibility at any time you have time on your hands.

      Mahwiting Mangako Joseph - 2013-03-14 16:03

      Yu are idiot Mara.... if that then why tv is showing all day, all nite, aren't ppl working, eating and all that. Are yu crus? Those who are not working will watch and those are working will then not watch bcs they will be at work.... I call it freedom of choice, it toptv wants to air it and if it makes business sense for them then they should be allowed to air it.

  • Scooterza - 2013-03-14 11:48

    What's the big deal? You only get it if you subscribe (ie this won't be available to anyone unless they expressly ask and pay for it) and it is not going to be any different to the kind of porn you can get at any of the existing sex shops or from the internet. I don't get why people are making such a big stink. If you are going to get uptight about porn (which is your right), get uptight about ALL porn not just TopTV's offerings! And why don't we mind serious violence on most of the movies aired? Let's face facts - most people reading this have had sex. It's normal human behaviour! But how many of you have blown someone's head off? So we get uptight when they show sex, but movies showing people getting killed is no problem? That's messed up! Let's get some perspective here people.

      Simon Berry - 2013-03-14 12:49

      Correct Scooter. The prudes will just ignore your logic and silently give you thumbs down. In their minds they think this is a victory and will ignore/not respond to the sense you make.

      rainbownation - 2013-03-14 13:24

      Its not about accessability of the channels it is about the fact that we have one of the highest rates of sex crimes against woman and children in the world. Imagine now that this filth was allowed on Top tv. Millions of homes across South Africa ( even in squatter camps i have seen them) have Top Tv putting on porn channels is like throwing flamable logs on the "sex crimes" fire. Encouraging this kind of thing indicates a very selfish attitude and an inconsideration for those around you. We should be objecting to porn both on internet and tv for the safety and future of our children and grandchildren.

      Carel Coetzee - 2013-03-14 15:38

      @ rainbownation - I understand your views and you are correct, but because people have to subcribe to this and a pin is needed to watch doesn't mean it is encouraging sex crimes against woman and children.

      Mahwiting Mangako Joseph - 2013-03-14 16:08

      not everyone can effort toptv and apart frm that toptv is not forcing anyone to go and buy their product.... DSTV is still available, yu can subscribe to that....

      Iamtoosmartekse - 2013-03-15 09:11

      @Rainbow : Porn leads to rape like religion leads to suicide bombers. If you ban porn by your logic, religion should be banned too. Stop reusing the same drivel that you heard from other theist nutcases and formulate your own thoughts.

  • Yolandè Rwaai - 2013-03-14 12:00

    Anything for more subscribers!

      RM Elegant - 2013-03-14 16:12

      They addressing a "need" with a price attached to it. If you don't want don't subscribe

  • Mshini Van Der Miya - 2013-03-14 12:03

    So true

  • Michael Jackwood - 2013-03-14 12:04

    SA dont need pornographic channels, we are already experiencing challenges related to sex, HIV! People must buy DVD's and watch in their homes instead. That way children under age will be safe.

      Sean Rossouw - 2013-03-14 15:32

      because kids can pay for the channels and get past a pin but cannot work dvd players hey.

      Mahwiting Mangako Joseph - 2013-03-14 16:11

      And Michael, who said that these kids yu are talking about don't watch those DVDs; unless if yu r gonna buy a safe to put all yur DVDs so yur kids won't access them and by the way, they won't need pin this time arnd...

      Brendon Nel - 2013-03-14 16:19

      Reeeetaaaard!

  • Yolandè Rwaai - 2013-03-14 12:06

    Anything for more subscribers!

  • GB Garratt - 2013-03-14 12:08

    Well id DSTV and the SABC can broadcast the most graphic, cruel violence, murders, knifing, stabbing and shootings 24/7 then I see no problem with a 24/7 porn channel. South Africans obviously prefer violence to sex.

  • Rudolph Stoltz - 2013-03-14 12:10

    Ja the old saying that Sex sells. Ask the music industry. The quality of music is almost on the ground but boy throw in a few almost naked bodies and moves and you have a hit. No this must not be allowed. The youths morals will be utterly destroyed.

      RM Elegant - 2013-03-14 16:15

      But movies encouraging theft (Fast n Furious, Italian Job) encouraging shooting and stabbing (Bourne Legacy, Mission Impossible) must be allowed Rudolph??

      Brendon Nel - 2013-03-14 16:18

      If the youth are watching the channel its your fault as a parent not top tv's. Ever heard of password protection?

  • selwyn.lloyd.37 - 2013-03-14 12:16

    I can surely tell you now that if TopTV gets the go ahead by INCASA then there will be a concerted effort to request all christians to cancel their subscriptions as it is their choice just like it is your choice to watch, then you will see TopTV fold and be liquidated. So go for it TopTV, you will loose in the end, why do you think you are currently under business rescue???, because you lost a lot of subscribers last time round because of your application, I was one of them. Happily with DSTV now.

      Scooterza - 2013-03-14 12:39

      Selwyn, please explain your logic. Top TV's porn channel will be a subscription service. ie if you don't order it and pay for it you won't see it. Furthermore, you are presumably aware that you go into any sex shop (and there are many) and can get a great number of porn movies. So what's the big deal about TOP TV? Why not appeal to have ALL porn banned? You surely need to apply the same standards across the board.

      Simon Berry - 2013-03-14 16:31

      Christians should then also cancel their internet and throw away their smart phones as well.

  • Mfanimpela - 2013-03-14 12:16

    Wtf!wt diz hgh rate of rape n chldren abuse dey bttr b jkng!!!

      Pulverturm - 2013-03-14 14:39

      wt yo tryn t sy, I cnt ndrstnd?!

  • Lynn Hattingh - 2013-03-14 12:23

    WHY? Do we not have enough rapists, paedophiles and child molesters in this country? Why don't you just import some more? This country is very very sick!

      Scooterza - 2013-03-14 12:41

      Lynn, same as my response to Selwyn. Why is TOP TV's porn any worse than the other porn that is freely available? I can get porn of the internet, porn from several local sex shops etc. How is this porn "better" than TOP TV's porn. Why aren't those objecting to TOP TV protesting about these other porn options? I don't understand this selective moral outrage.

      Sean Rossouw - 2013-03-14 15:35

      Any proof of a link between porn and sexual crimes? Did sexual assault only happen after porn was invented? Do other countries that have TV porn all day (France, Netherlands, etc) have more cases of sexual crime than us?

  • fredster.mania.5 - 2013-03-14 12:26

    Just what we need in a country where rape is at the order of the day

      SarcasticHeathen - 2013-03-14 15:49

      Unlimited access to internet rape-porn? SA already has that, moron. TOP-TV wont stop that...

  • Piet Phetheni - 2013-03-14 12:33

    Its just the same as the patrol price, solong as it generate money, its fine for the govt to allowe it. Its all about money end SARS will happely aprove papers.

  • Randy Nyambeni - 2013-03-14 12:38

    dvds r often forgotten in their vcr or misplaced for them to be unsuspectively caught by wrong hands, top tv, pin and ur set. Its lyk with ur personal atm card. More safe!

  • Colin Hayward - 2013-03-14 12:38

    this is going to result in more people being raped. are you really that stupid to want to air porn in a country riddled with sexual offenders? which idiot even came up with this idea?

      Daryn Varney - 2013-03-14 13:44

      and gun sales? Ban those too ? Same concept. Guns don't kill people, idiots with guns kill people. Porn does not make child molesters, and especially not TopTV porn, or is that different to cell/web porn?

      Sean Rossouw - 2013-03-14 15:36

      Please explain the logic behind your argument. Does pornography increase sexual crime? Where is the data to back this up?

      Brendon Nel - 2013-03-14 16:15

      Uuuuhhh duuuuh!!!! I'm sure if u can get top tv u have access to the web. Shall we ban the web cause its afloat on a sea of porn?

      Iamtoosmartekse - 2013-03-15 09:14

      @Colon Wayward Porn causes rape just like religion causes pedophilia. If you want to ban porn, then ban religion too.

  • Peace Mahlase - 2013-03-14 12:46

    Come on TopTV is givin us a choice u morally high south africans. Not even 1 person will be forced to watch porn. Most people seems to be ok with violence being shown on tv while we know we are most violent socierty. TopTV give us what we want sex and more sex

  • Lynn Hattingh - 2013-03-14 12:47

    Scooterza exactly my point! There is enough already! Why more?

      Scooterza - 2013-03-14 12:58

      Lynn, in YOUR opinion there is enough. I am not advocating getting the porn channel. I personally won't but my point it we have selective morals on so many issues. We object to porn in SOME cases. Why? We object to smoking marijuana but not tobacco? Why? Many object to homosexuality but turn a blind eye to domestic violence. Why? People object to animal cruelty yet eat meat from animals treated appallingly. This TOP TV issue is just a total non-issue as far as I am concerned and for those claiming it will mess up the morals of the youth! How do you get to that conclusion? Will you provide them with a subscription and PIN to access these channels? This is not going to be a free to air channel people!

  • Marius Coetzer - 2013-03-14 12:53

    Cant wait!

  • Edmund Monare - 2013-03-14 12:57

    Ther more reason I will not subscribe to this service provider. This would be a wastefull investment in the minds of people though its their choice. Why would you want to present such negativity to choose from anyway? The more reason why they should fail in increase revenue by this dirty inittiative.

  • Ryan Strydom - 2013-03-14 12:58

    Porn and prostitution are essentially two sides of the same coin. It works the same way as prostitution. And like in prostitution, the facts are actually pretty clear (and easy to access): most women in the porn industry are abused, manipulated, threatened with all sorts of things, and often emotionally and bodily damaged. Unless you want to believe what the porn marketers say (I assume you'd believe anything, then). And it's ok to make money out of that? No thanks, they won't get my money. And I don't want my country to be a place that supports an abusive industry just to make a quick buck.

      Phoenix Px - 2013-03-14 13:21

      So clearly gay male porn is then OK? Yay!

      Carel Coetzee - 2013-03-14 15:49

      Then ban ALL porn not just Toptv's porn...

      Brendon Nel - 2013-03-14 16:12

      So thee male porn stars are also abused,manipulated....emotionally and bodily damaged?

  • Juanne-pierre De Abreu - 2013-03-14 13:00

    What is Top TV...?

  • Rouxne Roxy McIntyre - 2013-03-14 13:01

    Bet al the porn fanatics and perverts disliked the decend comments that men/woman left. Nice top tv. Let's encourage the pedofiles,rapest and perverts! Filthy bastards!

      Randall Justin Coetzee - 2013-03-14 13:41

      I think 50 shades of grey has more power to turn a man into a rapist than porn... But, oh yeah...It's a book

      Iamtoosmartekse - 2013-03-15 09:15

      @Roxy I am glad to see you taking a stance against pedophilia. Can we expect the same damnation towards catholic priests in your next post?

  • Randall Justin Coetzee - 2013-03-14 13:03

    This'll probably be softcore... If they put hardcore stuff up please don't put any german porn on... They have the weirdest fetish. Oh, and for all of you who's so concerned about this bringing forth new rapists and what-what...just find a better argument. Porn is already freely available on the internet. You get a hart attack over this and you buy your 7 year old kids BB's, pay for the bis each month and expect them not to search?! You bunch of idiots... You don't turn rapist... You either are a sick human being or you're not.

  • Rohin Jadin - 2013-03-14 13:09

    I really don't want to live in a nanny state. I can choose to watch this or not, so I really don't see why we should prevent a private business from providing a service that let's face it, is in high demand. Those calling for censorship - how would you feel about restricted internet usage? how would you feel if the government blocked sites they felt were inappropriate because you can't monitor yourself, or your children?

      Ryan Strydom - 2013-03-14 13:33

      If a private business is providing a service that is built off the back of abusing others, why would you be OK with that? Are you OK with industries built off of child labour? This isn't about tobacco or video games. This isn't about a nanny state. Porn as a 'business' runs with no integrity, virtue or common human morality.

      Randall Justin Coetzee - 2013-03-14 13:38

      So in other words... Just like any other business that wants to see a profit? And the ANC- I guess you can call that a business too nowadays

      Rohin - 2013-03-14 13:47

      @Ryan, I don't pretend to know what goes on in the porn industry, but like all things there are back street productions, but there is an actual proper legalised porn industry where people work, get paid, and are just like any other employee. There's no less or more abuse then say people paying their domestic workers R50 a day.

      Ryan Strydom - 2013-03-14 14:22

      The proper legalised porn industry ain't squeeky clean at all - that's part of my buff with it. It's, in fact, very dirty... if you'd excuse the pun :P To bring your example home, if we ignore the fact that to pay a domestic worker R50 a day is appalling on its own, that domestic worker isn't working under conditions where she is being coerced to have gangbang sex with her manager's friends at a party, or else he'll take her drugs away (which he hooked her on to in the first place to make it easier to manipulate). Or being used as prostitutes on the side. I'm not referring to situations from back-street, underground, little-known productions. I'd suggest doing more research on the industry and even reading some of the stories from ex-porn stars. Women being paid well and actually happy in this industry are very, very few. The rest are just abused and when they're not young any more, tossed aside, with no career hopes, manipulated from a young age to get "in to" the industry only to find their lives became nothing more than a bunch of men getting "in to" them and that was that. It's prostitution with pimps and all the rest. I don't think there's any way it can be justified.

      Ryan Strydom - 2013-03-14 14:35

      Darn, my long-crafted answer got deleted. Bottom line - if you do the research, you'll find that the mainstream industry is full of blatant abuse. I'm not talking about back-street stuff. I'm talking mainstream, well-known companies, who use 'managers' who abuse these girls who are put in very manipulative situations to give their bodies away not just on camera, and often for 'favours'. It's prostitution, with all that business' abuses, plain and simple.

      Ryan Strydom - 2013-03-14 14:36

      Seriously, I'm just saying, do the research. (And anyone who pays a domestic worker R50 a day needs to rethink their values.)

      Rohin - 2013-03-14 15:04

      I've thought about it. I'm an advocate of choice, and I understand what you're saying. I think a very small percentage of people actually enter the industry by choice. Do I believe top TV airing porn would make the porn industry more prolific? No. Will preventing Top TV from airing their channel stop people who wish to use porn from doing so? No. Would applying harsher legislation on the industry lead to more dodgier practices in the industry? Probably. So, in hindsight do I change my opinion - just to be clear, I don't condone abuse of anyone, are top TV going to make more money from this? Maybe. But they may just as well lose clients, for now I'm gonna climb onto the fence.

  • Regan Davids - 2013-03-14 13:41

    Bring it on TOP TV No Muff too Tuff I only Dive at Five Whooooosaaaaaa

  • Roger De Almeida - 2013-03-14 14:05

    Wow some people are really stupid. They are not asking to broadcast the porn to all just to the people who are willing to pay for the service and then it will still be protected with pin access. Just because you don’t like porn doesn’t make it automatically wrong. You may be a catholic and according to their rules sex is only for making kids and yet condoms are free all over the place this does mean you are now going to raid the public toilets and destroy them. Similarly the condoms do not lead to rape as most rapists don’t use them either. You don’t have to like it but that doesn’t give you the right to tell someone else they can’t have it. If you choose to get the service and have kids it still remains your responsibility to control access to it just like it is your responsibility to keep your gun in a safe. I may not want to have a gun in my house or porn on my TV but if someone else wants it then it is their right. Just remember you are not forced to watch so shut up and go pretend your parents never had sex and you came from the grocery store. (mad cow section) while you are at it why not ban all cars as they lead to accidents and don’t forget the knives as people may cut them selves.

      Ryan Strydom - 2013-03-14 14:38

      Sorry dude, this is a failed argument. You know, you don't need to like human trafficking but that doesn't give you the right to tell someone else they can't have their own slave. It's their right to do what they want. Porn involves real people with real lives that are really destroyed. I'm not talking those who watch it (another argument), I'm talking those who create it.

      Roger De Almeida - 2013-03-14 14:55

      Why do you automatically assume that porn is made by human traffickers and other such dark sources? You watch R18 programs on e-Tv and many other channels and those are Hollywood block buster movies. The top-TV guys want to have an R18 channel some of it will be the same crap that’s on SABC but some will be lower budget. There are many films that have these R18 ratings and not all are porn. The argument is not for or against human trafficking and young girls doing the nasty its about the right to watch adult content shows on a subscriber only channel.

      Iamtoosmartekse - 2013-03-15 09:20

      @Ryan. Exaggerate much? Porn does not ruin lives, it makes people wealthy. And, a recent statistic shows that Porn stars have more on the job satisfaction than most other careers. I have never heard of a porn star saying "Oh no, I have to go to work today".. See, I can talk just as much crap as you.

  • Mfumbayelangabi Silwane - 2013-03-14 14:11

    This is down right evil, must not be allowed may be we should burn them until their insuarance goes broke.

      Sean Rossouw - 2013-03-14 15:41

      So violence is just fine?

  • Steve Swart - 2013-03-14 15:13

    Porn is driven by money, so is child trafficking. By allowing porn channels to be added to a service someone is paying for, you are actually saying child trafficking is ok.

      SarcasticHeathen - 2013-03-14 15:52

      So is religion...

      Brendon Nel - 2013-03-14 16:09

      By speaking ur drivel ur actually saying its ok to be a sh#t for brains

      Iamtoosmartekse - 2013-03-15 09:23

      Steve, do you actually expect anyone with half an IQ to believe your rubbish? If porn should be banned because it leads to child trafficking then religion should be banned because it leads to jihad.

  • Emmanuel Mkansi - 2013-03-14 16:19

    This is total madness, are they out of their minds? Etv's porn just got banned and they want to start again, why dont they just go to hell and die once. Sies!

      Iamtoosmartekse - 2013-03-15 09:23

      110% ignorant.

  • Teboho Rammiki - 2013-03-14 16:42

    hell year we want it.ACDP dey do not know wen to comment their kids watch it everyday.

  • PJthesecond Eldest - 2013-03-14 19:06

    Why? I thought the internet was your global porn site.

  • Mary Molatse - 2013-03-14 21:31

    Cult? https://www.facebook.com/HillsongChurchTruth

  • Ryan Shelton - 2013-03-14 22:06

    So in this country where murder, rape and violence are see as common place and overlooked, even accepted as part of day to day South African life, an adult content channel is being chastised as the root of all evil?? Please, grow up. If you don't like it, don't subscribe to the channel, and if you can't keep your children away from your own television, its your parenting skills that should be brought into question. This self righteous attitude isn't helping to curb the real problems in our country.

  • Tshepiso Mlala - 2013-03-15 00:27

    Instead of them having programs which will build our society in different ways such as having programs for people who are unemployed or not educated try showing them certain things they think about porn and then they expect to have cuStomers dstv is better

      Iamtoosmartekse - 2013-03-15 09:26

      You do sound like you should be CEO of top tv. I am sure that programs for the unemployed will rake in the millions they so desperately need. Hell, I think that advertisers will be lining outside the door.. I mean, what better target market than the unemployed. You go man.. You can do it.

  • del.pearson.98 - 2013-03-15 00:36

    Is this all TOP TV can come up with, finding it hard to break into the market so let's get dirty. Shame on you.

      Iamtoosmartekse - 2013-03-15 09:27

      Oh, how the judges will be judged.

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